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Election 2016: Good News, Bad News

Good News: Hillary lost
Bad News: Trump didn't

Maybe the two worst candidates in history and because we keep buying into the 2-party system one of them had to win...and did.

The anarchic side of me is very curious about the next 4 years.
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  • I have the feeling that you are not the only one with that opinion!

  • Both were/are a tire fire.  Trump is a mess but it'll be interesting to see who he fights with first. The so-called liberal media? (that created him BTW)  The GOP?  Dems?  All of the above?  Dr. Frankenstein should be nervous.

  • I tell this to everyone who hates Trump (not sayings you but people in general) aside for a second what you think of Trump or Clinton and think about which party you want to be nominating the next supreme court justices. Trump is moderate on many areas of policy, such as gay rights, and flexible on others, such as the economy. And several of the issues he ran and won on are serious issues that he was right to address. If you disagree with something don't moan, vote. This time, however, not enough Democrats voted to make a difference.

    Go Blue!!
  • I think the fact that the demographic with whom Hillary should share the most common worldview--white females--voted in majority for Trump, given the sexist things released during the campaign, speaks volumes about what a sh!tty candidate Clinton was.

    Of course her cheerleaders and the DNC will (try to) blame third parties and the news networks because that's easier than taking a long, hard look in the mirror.  I've already read tortured logic about Clinton winning if she somehow got all Stein voters and half of Johnson's voters in Florida, Michigan etc.

  • zjgm02 said: the demographic with whom Hillary should share the most common worldview--white females--voted in majority for Trump, given the sexist things released during the campaign, speaks volumes about what a sh!tty candidate Clinton was.

    Yep. I didn't vote for Trump, but my wife did. Not because she likes Trump, but because she couldn't stand HRC. #shewasntwithher

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    zjgm02 said: Of course her cheerleaders and the DNC will (try to) blame third parties and the news networks because that's easier than taking a long, hard look in the mirror.  I've already read tortured logic about Clinton winning if she somehow got all Stein voters and half of Johnson's voters in Florida, Michigan etc.

    Not ony that, but they need to look at the down ticket too because it's not just the Presidency that was lost. The Sentate, the House, the Governors, etc were lost and 24 more Democratic Senate seats are up at Midterms in 2 yrs. Voters didn't identify with Hillary and whatever the DNC was trying to sell and it's been going on for the last 2-4 years.

    Democrats and main stream media took Trump literally and not seriously, while Trump voters and Independents took Trump seriously and not literally.

    Go Blue!!

  • I'm more worried about what kind shady things are going to go on before Jan. 20, than the next 4 years.

  • First of all, justice was finally served to one Hilary Clinton. The American people were the only ones with the fortitude & courage to finally do what desperately needed done to her. Thank God she lost.

    As far as Trump, I'm happy to say I voted for Trump. The man had the courage to stand up & do what he thought was right & withstood an almighty beating from the media, the establishment, celebrities, athletes & just about anyone else you can name. In the end I believe Trump ran for the right reasons & I firmly believe his policies will be great for America. He's been wildly successful at nearly everything he's ever tried & there's no reason to believe he cannot do the same as President. Trump may be a little rough around the edges but it's not his fault America is full of marshmallow soft, participation trophy, weaklings who think their feels are more important than everything else.

    In the end we don't need Trump to be nice or to coddle the American people. We need him to be a good President. And everyone owes him a chance to do so. His success is our success.
  • What he said.

     

    First of all, justice was finally served to one Hilary Clinton. The American people were the only ones with the fortitude & courage to finally do what desperately needed done to her. Thank God she lost.



    As far as Trump, I'm happy to say I voted for Trump. The man had the courage to stand up & do what he thought was right & withstood an almighty beating from the media, the establishment, celebrities, athletes & just about anyone else you can name. In the end I believe Trump ran for the right reasons & I firmly believe his policies will be great for America. He's been wildly successful at nearly everything he's ever tried & there's no reason to believe he cannot do the same as President. Trump may be a little rough around the edges but it's not his fault America is full of marshmallow soft, participation trophy, weaklings who think their feels are more important than everything else.



    In the end we don't need Trump to be nice or to coddle the American people. We need him to be a good President. And everyone owes him a chance to do so. His success is our success.
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    Jabes0623 said: And everyone owes him a chance to do so. His success is our success.

    That's absolutely rich considering obstructionist Republicans have spent the past 8 years doing whatever they could NOT to work with Dems.  Nobody owes Trump anything.  He owes the American people who put him in office.  Time to deliver.  

  • Exactly TK... for one will never ever call him or respect him as president. This really speaks to America. How can any employer tell someone you do not have experience. I think l am going to apply being a brain surgeon, hey ll do nqot need experience.
  • If nothing else, he's going to have a very busy first 100 days.  He has an appearance in court in a civil suit against Trump U for fraud, NY State investigations into Trump Foundation, FBI investigation into Paul Manafort and ties with Russia. Defendent In Chief will then switch to plaintiff as he still needs to sue multiple women for supposed false accusations of sexual assault against him.  After that, he'll need to study the definition of a blind trust (let the irony of that term wash over you) as he removes himself from the massive conflict of interest he has with his business holdings. He then has to put Hilly in jail AND wipe out ISIS.  Oh, and then get cash out of Mexico to build a wall.  And accomlish all of this while Republicans submarine him with hopes of impeachment so they can roll Mike Pence into his position. Whew!   I can't even imagine what the 2nd 100 days would look like. Busy beaver.

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    TK I'm curious why you think taking out your frustrations with the (R) in Congress on Donald Trump, who has never spent a second in Congress, is fair or reasonable?

    Eric Brewster, that's a laughably asinine comparison.

    You two sound like petulant children throwing a fit because you didn't get your way.
  • The irony is if Trump is consistent as a president with the way he campaigned he won't get anything done because neither the Democrats or the Republican establishment supports him.

  • Jabes0623 said: TK I'm curious why you think taking out your frustrations with the (R) in Congress on Donald Trump, who has never spent a second in Congress, is fair or reasonable?

    Is this a serious question? 

  • edited November 2016
    Exactly zj, which is another reason TK's commmet is so perplexing. All Trump did was hammer Congress during his campaign. Called them everything but white boys.

    And yes TK, serious question. Just to speed things along, for future reference in this thread any question I ask that isn't followed by the words "don't worry its rhetorical" is a "serious" question.
  • http://i.imgur.com/vUBDKCD.jpg..
    This is the past 8 years, but Im throwing a tantrum. That's rich
  • edited November 2016
    You sure are. And nothing illustrates your immaturity more than attempting to excuse your poor behavior by pointing out the behavior of others.

    Using your logic I guess I better hurry & head on downtown & loot a few stores, light some cars on fire & send a few cops to the hospital before Obama leaves office...
  • Jabes0623 said: And yes TK, serious question. Just to speed things along, for future reference in this thread any question I ask that isn't followed by the words "don't worry its rhetorical" is a "serious" question.

     I only asked because of the absolute hypocrisy.  You said everybody owes Trump a chance and his success is ours, which is a load of sh**.  Is that what the Republicans said when Obama took office?  In the infamous words of Mitch McConnell: "I will do everything in my power to make sure he is a one-term president."   The unprecedented obstruction for the past 8 years has been absurd and it's a fact and Republicans are proud of it.  But as an Indy I'm going to sit back and laugh as both parties come after Trump and vice versa.  You can't handle people bagging on Trump but grow up, grow a pair, and get used to it because it hasn't even started yet.  Is that speeding things along enough for you?

  • Hard to blame McConnell for that stance in hindsight. After 8 years of Obama our healthcare system lies in ruins, our foreign policy has been failure after failure, our national debt has doubled, race relations are at the worst in half a century, 34% of the nation is on welfare, our urban centers are battlefields...On & on the failures go. Oh & before you start with the stock market, spare me, it's an illusion built on QE & ZIRP & paid for by taxpayers. Yes I appreciate all the $ I've made from it but I'd rather not have done it on the backs of savers & tax-payers.

    But of course not lost in your little diatribe there is the fact that you completely avoided answering my question. I suppose that's because you're smart enough to know that taking out your frustrations with Congress on Trump is childish & indefensible.

    The bottom line here though is you can bag on Trump all you want. You can whine, cry, riot, burn whole cities to the ground. It doesn't matter. Trump is President, (R) hold both houses of Congress & their agenda is going to get pushed through.

    Liberalism is a failed ideology. Look around the world. You had your chance, you blew it. Admit it & move on.
  • Jabes0623 said: But of course not lost in your little diatribe there is the fact that you completely avoided answering my question. I suppose that's because you're smart enough to know that taking out your frustrations with Congress on Trump is childish & indefensible.

    Your question was meaningless.  Taking out my frustration with Congress on Trump?  I simply pointed out the fact that you want to ignore: unprecedented obstructionism and your hypocrisy with expecting everybody to work together under Trump.  My frustration is not with Congress right now-it's the fact that this country could elect a racist autocrat game show host as POTUS. (and you want to list race relations as an Obama failure?  Yeah, cuz Trump is the guy to put an end to that. Blah ha!)  And the irony in it all is the fact that half of his own party feels the same way.  But here's the deal-Trump did what nobody thought was possible so who knows, maybe he WILL be successful.  And I hope he is. All he probably has to do is not speak in public and stay off Twatter.  The pros will handle the rest for him.

  • edited November 2016
    I love how what Mitch Connell & Congress has said & done makes me a hypocrite.

    I'd say if either of us is a hypocrite it would be you, one minute you're saying you hope everyone stands in Trump's way & you're damn sure goingt to. The next minute you're saying you hope he's successful...what?

    So here's the real deal, this is probably the last chance we have to save America as a true representative Republic rooted in Christian values. I know you liberals don't like to talk about it but the 1st & 2nd amendment are both in mortal danger. Lose them & it's all over. Keep the border open flooding America with 3rd world welfare refugees looking for a handout & eventuallly they'll be enough of them, along with all the welfare bums already here, to rule the system. We have 114 million Americans in the work force & 104 million on welfare. You do the math.

    So if you want your kids/grandkids to live in Venezuela keep obstructing Trump because that's exactly what you're going to have if he can't right this ship.
  • I voted for Trump and I get a kick out of all the childish whining. Trump won and HRC didn't.

    I didn't see Republicans taking to the streets 8 years ago and yet your the party of tolerance!!?!

    SDB has it exactly right. The main item is the make up of the Supreme Court. If the other side won, America, as we have known it, would have been changed possibly forever.

    Shout out to Jabes and Mark!!

    God has blessed America!
  • I'm so tired of all this bullsh*t protesting, cry baby, no life protesters. Get a life people. Democrats win sometimes. And they lose sometimes. The people voted. Hillary lost. No matter how hard you cry, it won't change. So stand united. Instead of acting like a bunch of poor losers. Ugh.

    March for life is next weekend- that is a worthy March. Pro life women were asked not to attend woman's march in DC. Protesting discrimination and discriminating at the same time.

    Go Blue!!
  • SdB, exactly. If you don't like how the election turned out or your side lost. I got 2 words for ya, Get Out. You and your celebrities and stars can leave and never, ever come back. You won't be missed. C Ya and Adios.
  • Recent history, gents. What is happening right now is no different than the people in 2009 screaming "give me my country back!" after their side lost and their guy left. Some are still convinced Obama is Kenyan (and that Iraq was behind 9/11).
  • Do none of you on the left have any concerns that George Soros & others are paying many of these criminals to riot & vandalize American cities & to encite others to do the same? How many hard working people's lives were ruined by these subversives in Ferguson, Baltimore, Oakland, Portland, etcetera?

    Do none of you on the left have any concerns that the left preaches tolerance, inclusion & peace but constantly resorts to violence, intimidation & threats against anyone who doesn't support their ideology?

    Do none of you on the left have any concern that the US media has become little more than a propoganda machine for the left no longer at all interested in the truth, facts or fairness?

    Do none of you on the left care that a Muslim refugee who would kill all of us regardless of politics & institute Sharia Law today if they could gets a home, a phone, a "paycheck", food stamps & an education on the taxpayers dime. While our veterans wait in weeks long lines to receive mediocre medical care, are homeless & have to fight the system sometimes for years just to get benefits owed them?

    Do none of you on the left care that your ideology has failed miserably everywhere it has gone? Seriously are you really that braindead? Socialism, in any form, has proven time & time & time again to be inferior to capitalism in every way. You fancy yourselves progressives, but in reality you are anything but.
  • Wow, that's quite a bumper sticker. I didn't realize Fox is a propaganda machine for the left. I'll have to check that out. And if you don't think capitalism is broken in America (and everywhere else) you should stay exactly where you are. In the dark.
  • Lol Fox News, talk about a bumper sticker! What's next racism & George Bush?

    Capitalism broken? Says the guy living in the wealthiest nation to ever exist thanks entirely to capitalism.

    The federal government is broken, the tax system is broken, the welfare system is broken. Get out of the way of capitalism & it'll be just fine. The next four years will prove who's in the dark about what ails this nation TK . And it's not capitalism. What a joke.
  • z-z-z-z-z-z-z. You obviously have no clear understanding of capitalism in America, the relationship between capital markets and business, nor the difference between crony capitalism and true capitalism. I'm all for what it *was*. But if you think it's fine and we just need to "get out of the way", good luck. The ladders are up for you (and me) but the only difference is I know it, while you walk around blind without a cane. But keep luggin' the water-it's noble work.
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