Denard Robinson, your All-Time FBS NCAA QB rushing yards leader.

Deuce Wayne

TK23Blue

Deuce Wayne


I'd argue there have been better QBs. But then again, I think rule #1 of being QB means you can throw the football. 

He's probably the best RB we ever had playing the wrong position though.  

In the NFL.  Too bad this is college football we're talking about.  His passing stats are comparable to any other QB at Michigan who could supposedly "throw the football" but way to ignore that stat.  Talk about cherry picker.  And just so we cover all of the bases, what about Gardner?  In his two "BIG" games (Ohio and SC) he completed 51%, avg'd 192 yards with 4 TD's and 2 picks.  I think the record books are safe.  Then again, he's the best receiver we've ever had playing the wrong position. 

Nope, pretty sure the ideal QB throws the ball well whether it's the NFL or college. 

And sorry... this is not a good stat-line for a qb:

57% completion percentage
49 TDS : 39 INTs

...but he did have some great highlights, I suppose.  

57% completion percentage is higher than Drew Henson and John Navarre. 49 TDs to 39 INTs looks bad, but you are taking away 1/2 of Denard's game when you look at that stat line...91 TDs to 39 INTs puts Denard's game into the proper perspective.

MichFan4Life


The "ideal" QB is realitive.

Eric Crouch, ideal QB for Nebraska?
Pat White, ideal QB for WVU?
Tommy Fraizer, ideal QB for Nebraska?
Antwaan Randall El, ideal QB for Indiana?
Micheal Vick, ideal QB for Va Tech?

I could go on but you get the point. The standard for what a QB is has changed. Yes a minimum level of passing ability is required to succeed at the QB position but other skills are becoming as, if not more important.

Forget highlights. Look at what Denard Robinson was asked to do relative to his production and the talent level around him. We're talking about a guy who made up 90% of our offense, was the focal point of opposing defenses, played with one legit NFL player, has his growth stunted in the middle of his career and still rewrote the record book at Michigan and nationally.

Did he always played perfectly, or win every game he played, nope. But then neither have any other QB we've had.

No, that's just it MF4L.  Much like a neutered dog he doesn't get it.  He'll never get it.  Apparently there are 10 other QB's at Michigan who were better, even though the cold hard stats laugh in his face.  But that's ok.  We've suffered fools before and we will again.

Maize927

Deuce Wayne

TK23Blue

Deuce Wayne


I'd argue there have been better QBs. But then again, I think rule #1 of being QB means you can throw the football. 

He's probably the best RB we ever had playing the wrong position though.  

In the NFL.  Too bad this is college football we're talking about.  His passing stats are comparable to any other QB at Michigan who could supposedly "throw the football" but way to ignore that stat.  Talk about cherry picker.  And just so we cover all of the bases, what about Gardner?  In his two "BIG" games (Ohio and SC) he completed 51%, avg'd 192 yards with 4 TD's and 2 picks.  I think the record books are safe.  Then again, he's the best receiver we've ever had playing the wrong position. 

Nope, pretty sure the ideal QB throws the ball well whether it's the NFL or college. 

And sorry... this is not a good stat-line for a qb:

57% completion percentage
49 TDS : 39 INTs

...but he did have some great highlights, I suppose.  

57% completion percentage is higher than Drew Henson and John Navarre. 49 TDs to 39 INTs looks bad, but you are taking away 1/2 of Denard's game when you look at that stat line...91 TDs to 39 INTs puts Denard's game into the proper perspective.

But we're talking about QUARTERBACKING... so it stands as 49 TDs to 39. I have no arguments that he's the best Running Back we've had to play quarterback though. 

 

MichFan4Life


The "ideal" QB is realitive.

Eric Crouch, ideal QB for Nebraska?
Pat White, ideal QB for WVU?
Tommy Fraizer, ideal QB for Nebraska?
Antwaan Randall El, ideal QB for Indiana?
Micheal Vick, ideal QB for Va Tech?

I could go on but you get the point. The standard for what a QB is has changed. Yes a minimum level of passing ability is required to succeed at the QB position but other skills are becoming as, if not more important.

Forget highlights. Look at what Denard Robinson was asked to do relative to his production and the talent level around him. We're talking about a guy who made up 90% of our offense, was the focal point of opposing defenses, played with one legit NFL player, has his growth stunted in the middle of his career and still rewrote the record book at Michigan and nationally.

Did he always played perfectly, or win every game he played, nope. But then neither have any other QB we've had.

Every one of those guys were better passers than Denard though. 

His passing was flat out embarrassing. It's hard to argue. I don't know if I've seen worse, honestly. Maybe it's because he played for my team, so I focused more on his play, but I've never cringed so much when someone dropped back to pass. (and I'm a Titans fan that watched VY try to pass) 

Deuce Wayne

Maize927

Deuce Wayne

TK23Blue

Deuce Wayne


I'd argue there have been better QBs. But then again, I think rule #1 of being QB means you can throw the football. 

He's probably the best RB we ever had playing the wrong position though.  

In the NFL.  Too bad this is college football we're talking about.  His passing stats are comparable to any other QB at Michigan who could supposedly "throw the football" but way to ignore that stat.  Talk about cherry picker.  And just so we cover all of the bases, what about Gardner?  In his two "BIG" games (Ohio and SC) he completed 51%, avg'd 192 yards with 4 TD's and 2 picks.  I think the record books are safe.  Then again, he's the best receiver we've ever had playing the wrong position. 

Nope, pretty sure the ideal QB throws the ball well whether it's the NFL or college. 

And sorry... this is not a good stat-line for a qb:

57% completion percentage
49 TDS : 39 INTs

...but he did have some great highlights, I suppose.  

57% completion percentage is higher than Drew Henson and John Navarre. 49 TDs to 39 INTs looks bad, but you are taking away 1/2 of Denard's game when you look at that stat line...91 TDs to 39 INTs puts Denard's game into the proper perspective.

But we're talking about QUARTERBACKING... so it stands as 49 TDs to 39. I have no arguments that he's the best Running Back we've had to play quarterback though. 

No, you are talking about passing...I am talking about quarterbacking

Deuce Wayne

MichFan4Life


The "ideal" QB is realitive.

Eric Crouch, ideal QB for Nebraska?
Pat White, ideal QB for WVU?
Tommy Fraizer, ideal QB for Nebraska?
Antwaan Randall El, ideal QB for Indiana?
Micheal Vick, ideal QB for Va Tech?

I could go on but you get the point. The standard for what a QB is has changed. Yes a minimum level of passing ability is required to succeed at the QB position but other skills are becoming as, if not more important.

Forget highlights. Look at what Denard Robinson was asked to do relative to his production and the talent level around him. We're talking about a guy who made up 90% of our offense, was the focal point of opposing defenses, played with one legit NFL player, has his growth stunted in the middle of his career and still rewrote the record book at Michigan and nationally.

Did he always played perfectly, or win every game he played, nope. But then neither have any other QB we've had.

Every one of those guys were better passers than Denard though. 

His passing was flat out embarrassing. It's hard to argue. I don't know if I've seen worse, honestly. Maybe it's because he played for my team, so I focused more on his play, but I've never cringed so much when someone dropped back to pass. (and I'm a Titans fan that watched VY try to pass) 

Eric Crouch in his Heisman winning season threw for 1510 yards at 55.6% completion percentage with 7 TDs and 10 INTs.......career was 51.5% completion percentage 4481 yards 29 TDs 25 INTs. By all accounts Denard is better than Crouch as a passer
 
Randle El 49.8% completion percentage 7469 yards 42 TDs 37 INTs. Denard is better.
 
I will give you Pat White as a better passer and Frazier as well but (like Crouch) always faced loaded boxes because of the triple option offenses they ran which makes it much easier to pass.