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BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:51 PM (permalink)
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The Bowl Championship Series is focusing on four main options for changing the system that determines college football's national champion, from minor tweaks of the current system to a full-fledged, four-team playoff at neutral sites, USA Today reported.
 
According to a two-page memo obtained by the newspaper, the proposals are not the only options being considered, but have been the focus of discussion on how to change the system, which has been a topic of debate since its inception. The BCS' leaders are meeting April 24-26 in Hollywood, Fla.

 
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7778011/bcs-memo-lays-proposals-change-including-playoffs
 
 
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Friday, April 06, 2012 12:21 AM (permalink)
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Please no. At most just add the plus 1. 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Friday, April 06, 2012 1:15 AM (permalink)
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Please yes. There is controversy nearly every year
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Friday, April 06, 2012 9:29 AM (permalink)
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Give me 8 and I`ll be great!
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Friday, April 06, 2012 9:31 AM (permalink)
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p.s If the conferences are so worried about degrading the regular season they d*mn well better make the semifinal games be played at home sites.
 
Oh and all this talk of hurting the bowl is ridiculous. The bowls are already hurt. Attendance and TV ratings for bowl games continue to drop. The games are too watered down, teams with losing and .500 records make bowl games on a now regular basis. Schools continue to not be able to sell their assigned tickets and a quite a few lose money on bowl games. I see no reason to protect the Brute Sun Bowl or the Kraft Nabisco Cooper Tire.com bowl.
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Friday, April 06, 2012 10:08 AM (permalink)
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It's about friggin' time.

 
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Friday, April 06, 2012 4:42 PM (permalink)
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Anything above an 8-team would be silly, but one step at a time I suppose. 95% of your issues would be solved by a +1, but I do enjoy the idea of the 4 team and let the 1 and 2 seeds play at Home.
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Friday, April 06, 2012 5:32 PM (permalink)
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Anything above an 8-team would be silly, but one step at a time I suppose. 95% of your issues would be solved by a +1, but I do enjoy the idea of the 4 team and let the 1 and 2 seeds play at Home.

I disagree... a plus one is going to cause more problems/arguments for teams. 

 
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Friday, April 06, 2012 5:47 PM (permalink)
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Don't care if it causes more arguments, what counts is that those arguments will hold less credence than the ones we currently have.
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Friday, April 06, 2012 7:36 PM (permalink)
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I'm cool with 4-6
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Monday, April 09, 2012 8:48 AM (permalink)
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I hate to rain on the parade but give me a year where the BCS got it absolutely wrong. Yes, there have been teams that went undefeated but nearly every year - if not EVERY year - the BCS ended with the best team receiving the national title crown. Even when Florida was voted in over us they pummeled OSU.

If they make it anything more than a 4 team playoff they're reaching. If you can't make the top 4 you've got no reason to cry. 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Monday, April 09, 2012 10:42 AM (permalink)
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I hate to rain on the parade but give me a year where the BCS got it absolutely wrong. Yes, there have been teams that went undefeated but nearly every year - if not EVERY year - the BCS ended with the best team receiving the national title crown. Even when Florida was voted in over us they pummeled OSU.

If they make it anything more than a 4 team playoff they're reaching. If you can't make the top 4 you've got no reason to cry. 

 
I'd beg to differ.  Last year, if they were going with a 'Plus 1' which is essentially a 4 team playoff, it would have been Alabama, LSU, Stanford and Okie State.  Oregon would have been on the outside looking in even though they beat Stanford soundly which would have given them a legitimate beef about being excluded. 
 
And was Alabama TRULY the best team in the country last year?  I would have liked to see what they would do vs. Okie St.  At least a Plus 1 would have ended all doubt and speculation.
 
Personally, I will gladly take what we can get and it that is a Plus 1 for now, that will be a HUGE improvement over the current flawed system.  I think 8 would be ideal, but I think most years, if you are outside of the top 4, you really shouldn't be in the mix for a NC anyways.

 

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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Monday, April 09, 2012 12:07 PM (permalink)
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I hate to rain on the parade but give me a year where the BCS got it absolutely wrong. Yes, there have been teams that went undefeated but nearly every year - if not EVERY year - the BCS ended with the best team receiving the national title crown. Even when Florida was voted in over us they pummeled OSU.

If they make it anything more than a 4 team playoff they're reaching. If you can't make the top 4 you've got no reason to cry. 


I'd beg to differ.  Last year, if they were going with a 'Plus 1' which is essentially a 4 team playoff, it would have been Alabama, LSU, Stanford and Okie State.  Oregon would have been on the outside looking in even though they beat Stanford soundly which would have given them a legitimate beef about being excluded. 


Oregon had no case because they lost 2 games (L$U and U$C). Doesn't matter if they beat Stanford.

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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Monday, April 09, 2012 12:51 PM (permalink)
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I hate to rain on the parade but give me a year where the BCS got it absolutely wrong. Yes, there have been teams that went undefeated but nearly every year - if not EVERY year - the BCS ended with the best team receiving the national title crown. Even when Florida was voted in over us they pummeled OSU.

If they make it anything more than a 4 team playoff they're reaching. If you can't make the top 4 you've got no reason to cry. 

2000 - 1 loss FSU gets nod over 1 loss Miami team that beat FSU. Miami's 1 loss came to Washington...another 1 loss team. 2 teams were screwed over that season.
 
2001 - Nebraska, despite losing 62-36 in their regular season finale to Colorado and their berth in the Big 12 title game as well, was chosen over a 1 loss Oregon and the 2 loss Big 12 champs that flat out destroyed them. Nebraska would be embarrassed by Miami in the national title game and Oregon routed Colorado in the Fiesta. Oregon was screwed over that season.
 
2003 - Oklahoma, LSU, and USC all finished the season with 1 loss. BCS selects LSU and non conference champion Oklahoma to play for title.
 
2004 - Auburn left out in favor of Oklahoma mostly based on Auburn's loss to USC the year before.
 
2006 - Michigan, Wisconsin, Louisville, and Florida all with 1 loss. Boise State would finish as the only undefeated team that year. Florida, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Louisville all finished as 1 loss teams.
 
2008 - 1 loss Bama, 1 loss Florida, 1 loss Oklahoma, 1 loss Texas, 1 loss Texas Tech, undefeated Utah, and undefeated Boise State. Oklahoma's 1 loss was to Texas, Texas' was to Texas Tech, Tech's was to Oklahoma. Florida's was to Ole Miss and Bama's was to Florida in the SEC title game. Utah would finish the season as the only undefeated team crushing Bama in the Sugar Bowl. Florida and Texas both finished the season with 1 loss.
 
2009 - 5 teams undefeated going into bowl season. Texas, Bama, TCU, Boise, and Cincy. Boise and Bama would both finish with 14-0 records
 
2010 - Undefeated TCU would be on the outside looking in after defeating Wisconsin (that many believed to be the team playing the best in the country going into the bowls) in the Rose Bowl.
 
2011 - Okie State given no chance.
 
If there is any doubt that the BCS is leaving one of the 2 best teams in the country out of the title game than the system is wrong.
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Monday, April 09, 2012 1:05 PM (permalink)
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^^^Nice work as usual from ya 927. :)
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:45 AM (permalink)
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I'm for a top 10 playoff and having a wildcard round for the bottom 4.  Then doing the 8 team format.  I've said this before, there's just something to be said about finishing in the top 10 because it's not easy to do.  Those teams ranked 9th and 10th deserve a chance.  And I don't think that waters down the regular season when 1 loss can easily bump you down 10 spots these days. 
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:49 AM (permalink)
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Here is an idea, have a playoff that fluctuates based on the BCS points. Say you have to be within 0.1 from being the number 2 team to qualify for a playoff or be undefeated. This year it would have been a 4 team playoff being.
LSU  - 1.000
Bama - .9419
OkSt - .9333
Stanford - .8476
 
Last season would have been a 3 team playoff
Auburn - .9866
Oregon - .9720
TCU - .9102
 
2009 would have had a 6 team playoff
Bama - .9978
Texas - .9433
Cincy - .8878
TCU - .8836
UF - .8637
Boise - .8106 (in because they were undefeated)
 
Personally I kinda like this format. It is much harder to argue you were screwed as generally there is a drop off when you get to a layer of teams that pretty clearly do not deserve a shot.
 
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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:13 AM (permalink)
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I hate to rain on the parade but give me a year where the BCS got it absolutely wrong. Yes, there have been teams that went undefeated but nearly every year - if not EVERY year - the BCS ended with the best team receiving the national title crown. Even when Florida was voted in over us they pummeled OSU.

If they make it anything more than a 4 team playoff they're reaching. If you can't make the top 4 you've got no reason to cry. 


I'd beg to differ.  Last year, if they were going with a 'Plus 1' which is essentially a 4 team playoff, it would have been Alabama, LSU, Stanford and Okie State.  Oregon would have been on the outside looking in even though they beat Stanford soundly which would have given them a legitimate beef about being excluded. 


Oregon had no case because they lost 2 games (L$U and U$C). Doesn't matter if they beat Stanford.

Go Blue!!

 
I disagree.  Those were hardly bad losses by Oregon.  Stanford was lucky to beat USC (3 ot's) and who did the Cardinal play OOC (San Jose St., Duke and ND)?  Hardly anything to brag about.  Yes, Oregon had 2 losses, but one of those losses was to the #2 team in the country and I would argue that Oregon's head to head win over Stanford (a beatdown AT Stanford I might add) would counter balance Oregon's 2 losses...

 

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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:52 PM (permalink)
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I hate to rain on the parade but give me a year where the BCS got it absolutely wrong. Yes, there have been teams that went undefeated but nearly every year - if not EVERY year - the BCS ended with the best team receiving the national title crown. Even when Florida was voted in over us they pummeled OSU.

If they make it anything more than a 4 team playoff they're reaching. If you can't make the top 4 you've got no reason to cry. 


I'd beg to differ.  Last year, if they were going with a 'Plus 1' which is essentially a 4 team playoff, it would have been Alabama, LSU, Stanford and Okie State.  Oregon would have been on the outside looking in even though they beat Stanford soundly which would have given them a legitimate beef about being excluded. 


Oregon had no case because they lost 2 games (L$U and U$C). Doesn't matter if they beat Stanford.

Go Blue!!


I disagree.  Those were hardly bad losses by Oregon.  Stanford was lucky to beat USC (3 ot's) and who did the Cardinal play OOC (San Jose St., Duke and ND)?  Hardly anything to brag about.  Yes, Oregon had 2 losses, but one of those losses was to the #2 team in the country and I would argue that Oregon's head to head win over Stanford (a beatdown AT Stanford I might add) would counter balance Oregon's 2 losses...


I don't disagree that Oregon was probably the better team but the fact remains that a team with 1 loss will more often than not get a better chance than a team with 2 losses.

Michigan finished 11-2 this year. M$U finished 10-3 and beat us. The polls had Michigan ranked higher because we only had 2 losses. I'm not saying that's right or wrong; rather that's just the nature of the beast.

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Re:BCS options for change- playoffs on the table? Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:57 PM (permalink)
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^^ in fairness we beat 2 of the 3 teams that MSU lost to....one of those was a straight up beatdown of Nebraska
 
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