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northwestern players are ruled to be school employees Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:37 PM (permalink)
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/0...tball-union/index.html
 
 
There goes college football, Cant say I blame them
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:49 PM (permalink)
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Good for them
 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:54 PM (permalink)
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/0...tball-union/index.html


There goes college football, Cant say I blame them

A bit over-dramatic don't you think.
 
Just wait, there's more to come. This case was an easy one. The cases currently in the pipeline have the potential to cause radical change. None of which will destroy college football IMO.
 
They said TV would destroy college sports and it's done the opposite.
 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:26 PM (permalink)
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Way to go, Northwestern. Idiots. 
 
Of all places... yeah, Northwestern. Student athletes there generate so much revenue! I mean, what kid doesn't beg for a (insert star QB of NW that never exists) jersey for Christmas?

You should be able to make money off your own name- that's it. You shouldn't be paid to go to college, though. 
 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:30 PM (permalink)
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Not good ...hope this doesn't alter college football in a MAJOR way but it probably might. College football is my favorite sport & don't know what I'll do if they, radicially, change it. Will NEVER be an NFL fan, for sure.
 
I don't totally discard the students' argument...but would've preferred a larger stipend than unionizing.
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:50 PM (permalink)
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Lots of holes in this decision and I don't expect it to hold up.

They won this battle, but the war is far from over.

Go Blue!!

Ohio St.'s actions are not unlike their lower intestine: stinky and loaded with danger.

 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Wednesday, March 26, 2014 5:59 PM (permalink)
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Yeah, OK u wanna be a school employee? Sure. OK come up with $$ for 4 years of school. I bet free rides will be a thing of the past soon.........we can't offer u a scholarship anymore, but here's some cash. Lol
 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:48 AM (permalink)
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This could be one more bit of the undoing of the NCAA as the governing body of CFB.

 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:17 AM (permalink)
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Screw Kain Colter. This is likely just the tip of the iceberg folks. 

 
 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:44 AM (permalink)
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The cost to attend Michigan for out of state residents is approaching $60,000 annually. While something should be done for players whose jerseys are being sold, as an example, this is going to be an ugly slope college sports could be going down. It seems everything GOOD eventually gets mucked up eventually.

If unions become a reality, do you pay the same scale for, say, middle guard as you do QB?

What do you pay the girl's volleyball team? Maybe the Michigans and Ohio States of the college sports world can afford it but MOST cannot. Ahhhh! Title 1X!!

This won't happen overnight but it may not take as long to go through the courts and implement as we may think.

Say hello to club football.
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:26 AM (permalink)
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Yawn.  A) It's Northwestern B) They'll appeal, this will stall and by the time it comes around again, Colter will be 10 years into his gig selling life insurance.
 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:04 AM (permalink)
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This entitled eliteist generation really pi$$es me off. All they need to do is do their thing, showcase their skills and move on to the nfl. What's next, a model employee at Taco Bell that has unreal customer service skills suing because he flips a store and wants a piece of that pie? Not the greatest comparison I know, but I just saw this issue and it makes me mad.
 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:17 AM (permalink)
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The ruling is only for scholarship athletes in football (no other sports as of this moment) so what about the other 25-30% of your football team who's not on scholly?

My friends and I are going to Morton's for dinner, you guys have fun at Bob's Backyard Burritos...haha

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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:19 AM (permalink)
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The impacts of this ruling may be felt even more harshly in men's basketball. I had a conversation about this very subject, with a longtime friend, who happens to be a gentleman of color. When we agreed to the likelihood that this would get every hood rat with hoop skills and the ability to fake his way to a minimal SAT score to try signing up for the gravy train of collegiate cash, he promptly lapsed into the vernacular: "N***as be gettin' paid!"  The laughter that followed, while spontaneous, like the comment, had a disturbing nervous quality to it. One of the factors that gave rise to the NCAA was the existence of "tramp" athletes, in the late 19th Century. These guys found their way onto football teams, but not necessarily the registrar's office, or a classroom. Perhaps college sports have come full circle, and the reduction of all college athletics to the club level may be the only way to preserve the purity of amateurism.

 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:23 AM (permalink)
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The impacts of this ruling may be felt even more harshly in men's basketball. I had a conversation about this very subject, with a longtime friend, who happens to be a gentleman of color. When we agreed to the likelihood that this would get every hood rat with hoop skills and the ability to fake his way to a minimal SAT score to try signing up for the gravy train of collegiate cash, he promptly lapsed into the vernacular: "N***as be gettin' paid!"  The laughter that followed, while spontaneous, like the comment, had a disturbing nervous quality to it. One of the factors that gave rise to the NCAA was the existence of "tramp" athletes, in the late 19th Century. These guys found their way onto football teams, but not necessarily the registrar's office, or a classroom. Perhaps college sports have come full circle, and the reduction of all college athletics to the club level may be the only way to preserve the purity of amateurism.

Thing is, there is no amateurism. It's an illuision. There is NOTHING amateur in nature about college football and basketball. It mirrors the professional game in every way and in some cases superceeds it in terms of scale and flash. Nick Saban makes more than most of the coaches in the NFL. College stadiums almost exclusively outrank their professional counterparts in size and in many cases luxury. Guys like Phil Knight and T Boone Pickens have built monuments to athletics that are unparallelled at the professional level. The support staff and S&C programs are in many ways ahead of the professional staffs in the NBA and NFL. Mike Barwis for instance went from training college athletes to now services almost a hundred prop athletes at his gym. The TV and apparel contracts that dominate college athletics rival many professional leagues. Dr Pepper, who was just announced as the official sponsor of the new college football playoff, is expected to shell out $30 million dollars just to have their name attached.
 
It may make people quezy, but we're talking about business here. BIG Business in the billions (with a B) of dollars. Put aside the paying players side of the issues and there is a laundry list of things that players legitimate have the right to argue for. From player safety to freedom of movement and multi-year scholarships. Look I realize that unions scare the living s**t out of many people but maybe had players been allowed a seat at the table to begin with we wouldn't be seeing these lawsuits pop up all over the country.
 
Eventually the field-hands wise up.
 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:02 PM (permalink)
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It seems everything GOOD eventually gets mucked up eventually.



Perception is everything and I'd argue the players involved in this suit disagree with you that things are "good".

Don't some of you guys ever get tired of rooting for the people who control everything, and wonder why things operate the way they do and why they are sold the way they are?
 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:27 PM (permalink)
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UMWingedHelmet

It seems everything GOOD eventually gets mucked up eventually.



Perception is everything and I'd argue the players involved in this suit disagree with you that things are "good".

Don't some of you guys ever get tired of rooting for the people who control everything, and wonder why things operate the way they do and why they are sold the way they are?

 
Yeah, Bo was a bad guy.  Don Canham was a bad guy, Woody was a bad guy.  Wrong! 
 
I also realize the price of ticketing, food and drinks, souvenirs, etc. are disgusting but what do you think will happen if college athletes become unionized?  Further, it may only be for football right now but don't be so naive to think it won't spread to every collegiate sport.
 
Shrug this off all you want guys but I've been on the other side of the table across from unions and it can get pretty ugly once they get their foot in the door.  And, I certainly realize they had their necessary place in American life at one time and possibly some still do today to a lesser degree.
 
Look at MLB.  Frankly, it USED to be a game.
 
There has to be a happy medium and, imho, going "union" isn't the answer. 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:50 PM (permalink)
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Bo openly broke NCAA rules he didn't agree with (like limits on meals and tapping players).
 
The issue is believing that schools, conferences, and the NCAA is a benevolent force simply out for the good of all parties involved. They are a self-serving, billion dollar business looking to protect their own interest like every other billion dollar business. They've simply been able to hide behind the veil of amateurism and non-profit status.
 
If history has taught us anything it is that no one gives up power or money willingly. Usually it has to be taken.
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UMWingedHelmet

It seems everything GOOD eventually gets mucked up eventually.



Perception is everything and I'd argue the players involved in this suit disagree with you that things are "good".

Don't some of you guys ever get tired of rooting for the people who control everything, and wonder why things operate the way they do and why they are sold the way they are?


Yeah, Bo was a bad guy.  Don Canham was a bad guy, Woody was a bad guy.  Wrong! 

I also realize the price of ticketing, food and drinks, souvenirs, etc. are disgusting but what do you think will happen if college athletes become unionized?  Further, it may only be for football right now but don't be so naive to think it won't spread to every collegiate sport.

Shrug this off all you want guys but I've been on the other side of the table across from unions and it can get pretty ugly once they get their foot in the door.  And, I certainly realize they had their necessary place in American life at one time and possibly some still do today to a lesser degree.

Look at MLB.  Frankly, it USED to be a game.

There has to be a happy medium and, imho, going "union" isn't the answer. 


 
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:33 PM (permalink)
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Bo openly broke NCAA rules he didn't agree with (like limits on meals and tapping players).



 
Can you prove that?
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Re:northwestern players able are ruled to be school employees Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:38 PM (permalink)
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Ummm, it's in his book with his name attached to it so..........
 
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Bo openly broke NCAA rules he didn't agree with (like limits on meals and tapping players).




Can you prove that?


 
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