Tough Road to Hoke

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Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:16 AM
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Michigan is 7-11 away from the Big House under Brady Hoke. The Maize and Blue are just 1-9 in road/neutral site games against teams that finished with 8 or more wins.
 
2011 (3-2)
Opponent (Final Record) Result
@NW (6-7) W 42-24
@MSU (11-3) L 14-28
@Iowa (7-6) L 16-24
@Illinois (7-6) W 31-14
Sugar Bowl, Virginia Tech (11-3) W 23-20

2012 (2-5)
Arlington, Alabama (13-1) L 14-41
@ND (12-1) L 6-13
@Purdue (6-7) W 44-13
@Nebraska (10-4) L 9-23
@Minnesota (6-7) W 35-13
@OSU (12-0) L 21-26
Outback Bowl, USCe (11-2) L 28-33

2013 (2-4)
@UCONN (3-9) W 24-21
@PSU (7-5) L 40-43
@MSU (13-1) L 6-29
@Northwestern (4-8) W 27-19
@Iowa (8-5) L 21-24
BWW Bowl, Kansas State (8-5) L 14-31

2014
@ND (1-0)
@Rutgers (1-0)
@MSU (1-0)
@NW (0-1)
@OSU (1-0
The Winged Helmets will rise again!

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:36 AM
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If it wasn't for 2 sheer luck plays in 2013 we could've easily been 0-6 on the road. Lol

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 11:37 AM
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"Hoke's a good guy!  Quit using facts to make him look bad!  he's a Michigan Man!  He just needs more time!"
 

"We have to work harder."
-Brady "BRadio" Hoke during any post-game press conference in the last year.

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 1:32 PM
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jsj_297


If it wasn't for 2 sheer luck plays in 2013 we could've easily been 0-6 on the road. Lol

 
And if there were two more plays we easily could of been 4-1 on the road in 2013-what's your point? 
 
Bounces and luck usually even themselves out over the course of a season. We just as easily could of been 4-1 on the road in 2013. We were what were were.
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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 1:40 PM
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BigHouseFootball

And if there were two more plays we easily could of been 4-1 on the road in 2013-what's your point? 

Bounces and luck usually even themselves out over the course of a season. We just as easily could of been 4-1 on the road in 2013. We were what were were.

 
I don't know how many times this has to be repeated before people "get it."

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 1:56 PM
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One thing to note is that 6 of Hoke's 11 losses were by 8 points or less meaning we've pretty much been in a lot of these road games.  It's been frustrating to see the offense go into a shell on most of what would be considered 'big' road games due to Al Borges seemingly forgetting how to come up with a successful gameplan for road games.
 
I'm hoping to see a difference in our playcalling philosophy in 'big' road games with a new OC at the helm calling the plays.  I will really be disappointed if we come out all conservative again this Saturday night in South Bend...

 

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 3:22 PM
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Can we just stop with the "if we had X amount of points we would have won/loss X amount of games".  Does it have to be brought up in every other damn thread.  Over the last X amount of years there have been tons of games we could have won/loss if the ball had bounced this way or that, who gives a **** at this point?  It's 2014, our guys are 1-0 and the stage is set for a legendary beat down of Notre Dame in their house this weekend to close out the series.  Only one or two people hang onto the "well if we had scored this many points" mantra and the rest of you guys get sucked right back in to the same back and forth.....please stop. 
 
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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:18 PM
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BigHouseFootball


jsj_297


If it wasn't for 2 sheer luck plays in 2013 we could've easily been 0-6 on the road. Lol


And if there were two more plays we easily could of been 4-1 on the road in 2013-what's your point? 

Bounces and luck usually even themselves out over the course of a season. We just as easily could of been 4-1 on the road in 2013. We were what were were.

Thats where your wrong, we really were only 2 fluke plays away from being 0'fer on the road, and you know it. Our losses were a result of more than 2 fluke plays going against us.

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:23 PM
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Anybody remember this "dominant" win.....Heres one of our pure, luck wins, disprove this one BHF, and I wont even bother posting the other......
 

 
This wasnt just one of those bad bounces that went our way, wins, I know what you meant by that. This is a damn we are sooooo lucky somebody was paying attention, because Our coach sure wasnt play. Period!

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 8:13 PM
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Wrong again Jsj, but that's common-just post another cute picture since that's been your "thing" lately.

As I said above it is ridiculous to say "oh two plays and we would have been 0-fer on the road!!!" And just as easily someone can say "two more plays in our favor and we would of been 4-1!!!"

It's the same when someone on here says "a few plays here and there and we would of only won 3 games!!!" Just as easily someone can say "a few more plays in our favor and we would of been 11-1!!"

A team is what their record says and we were a 7 win team last year. No more, no less. In 20 years no one will look back at 2013 and say "yeah but they were a few plays away from being a 3 win season"

You can do this with ANY season. Heck, go back to 97! Defense had to make a big stop against Notre Dame, offense had to save the day against Iowa, defense had to turn away Ohio several times in the 4th quarter, and then the Rose bowl. Man, Michigan was was a few plays away from being a 4 loss team again in 97!

You are what your record says you are.
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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 9:14 PM
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BigHouseFootball


Wrong again Jsj, but that's common-just post another cute picture since that's been your "thing" lately.

As I said above it is ridiculous to say "oh two plays and we would have been 0-fer on the road!!!" And just as easily someone can say "two more plays in our favor and we would of been 4-1!!!"

It's the same when someone on here says "a few plays here and there and we would of only won 3 games!!!" Just as easily someone can say "a few more plays in our favor and we would of been 11-1!!"

A team is what their record says and we were a 7 win team last year. No more, no less. In 20 years no one will look back at 2013 and say "yeah but they were a few plays away from being a 3 win season"

You can do this with ANY season. Heck, go back to 97! Defense had to make a big stop against Notre Dame, offense had to save the day against Iowa, defense had to turn away Ohio several times in the 4th quarter, and then the Rose bowl. Man, Michigan was was a few plays away from being a 4 loss team again in 97!

You are what your record says you are.

 
BHF - Do you think we would have beaten Nebraska if there had been a playoff system.  I do.

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:20 PM
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So are we voting whether or not to get rid of all the meme's here?...If we are I vote yes, get them the $&@? outta here!!!

As far as Hoke's record on the road. It's a problem. It's a real problem.
"We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit."
— Aristotle

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:44 AM
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UMwinhedhelmet I think we would have beaten Nebraska as well. The Defense would of had to lead the way as usual and shut down that option but I think they would of, we were very strong up front. Ironically enough that type of offense would of effectively nullified Woodson until Nebraska was forced to attempt a forward pass, and if that Nebraska team was throwing the ball it was a bad sign. But I think our D would of held them in check long enough for our offense to get ahead and force Nebraska to throw.

And I am right there with you Jabes.
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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:15 AM
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UMWingedHelmet


BigHouseFootball


Wrong again Jsj, but that's common-just post another cute picture since that's been your "thing" lately.

As I said above it is ridiculous to say "oh two plays and we would have been 0-fer on the road!!!" And just as easily someone can say "two more plays in our favor and we would of been 4-1!!!"

It's the same when someone on here says "a few plays here and there and we would of only won 3 games!!!" Just as easily someone can say "a few more plays in our favor and we would of been 11-1!!"

A team is what their record says and we were a 7 win team last year. No more, no less. In 20 years no one will look back at 2013 and say "yeah but they were a few plays away from being a 3 win season"

You can do this with ANY season. Heck, go back to 97! Defense had to make a big stop against Notre Dame, offense had to save the day against Iowa, defense had to turn away Ohio several times in the 4th quarter, and then the Rose bowl. Man, Michigan was was a few plays away from being a 4 loss team again in 97!

You are what your record says you are.


BHF - Do you think we would have beaten Nebraska if there had been a playoff system.  I do.

No way Woodson would have lost that game. There was something special about that season. 

 

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Wednesday, September 03, 2014 6:06 AM
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I really hope we stay hungry and humble . I would love to see MICHIGAN finally turn the corner for good.  
LETS GET BACK TO WINNING

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Wednesday, September 03, 2014 7:15 AM
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Ha and there I was thinking we we're just lucky to make that fg, my bad bhf.

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Re:Tough Road to Hoke - Wednesday, September 03, 2014 9:24 AM
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UMWingedHelmet


BigHouseFootball


Wrong again Jsj, but that's common-just post another cute picture since that's been your "thing" lately.

As I said above it is ridiculous to say "oh two plays and we would have been 0-fer on the road!!!" And just as easily someone can say "two more plays in our favor and we would of been 4-1!!!"

It's the same when someone on here says "a few plays here and there and we would of only won 3 games!!!" Just as easily someone can say "a few more plays in our favor and we would of been 11-1!!"

A team is what their record says and we were a 7 win team last year. No more, no less. In 20 years no one will look back at 2013 and say "yeah but they were a few plays away from being a 3 win season"

You can do this with ANY season. Heck, go back to 97! Defense had to make a big stop against Notre Dame, offense had to save the day against Iowa, defense had to turn away Ohio several times in the 4th quarter, and then the Rose bowl. Man, Michigan was was a few plays away from being a 4 loss team again in 97!

You are what your record says you are.


BHF - Do you think we would have beaten Nebraska if there had been a playoff system.  I do.

 
If Tom Osborne didn't retire, this isn't even a question that would need to be asked.