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Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:57 PM
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“In his fourth year now, I think there’s more depth there, I think it’s going to help them become more dominant up front because I think (new offensive coordinator Doug) Nussmeier comes in at the right time,” Herbstreit said on a conference call today. “They’re going to try to run the football downhill. I think the backs are more experienced and, consequently, I think it’s going to take a lot of pressure off Devin Gardner.

“I think Devin Funchess is going to be his go-to guy. They’ll put him in a position to make some plays one on one and the defensive secondary will have to pay a lot of attention to him, which will create a lot of running lanes.”

“Getting Doug Nussmeier over as the offensive coordinator will help them,” Hebrstreit said. “It was really painful to watch their offense last year. I don’t know in my lifetime if I’ve ever been able to see a Michigan offense not be able to run the football. While most of the attention seemed to fall on Devin Gardner, watching that team week in and week out, I was mystified by the offensive line play and the lack of difference makers at the tailback position.

“For my entire life Michigan’s played great defense and have a dominant offensive line and they’ve been able to run the football.”

Rich Rodriguez “changed the (offensive) DNA” and it has taken time for Hoke to “get it back to more of a pro-style offense.”

“For Michigan to get back to the Bo Schembechler, Lloyd Carr type of Michigan, to me it’s about getting their defense to being a physical, athletic defense,” Herbstreit said. “Time will tell us if Greg Mattison has a bunch who can do that. On paper, there’s a lot to like there. We’ll find out if some of these freshmen are as good as we’re hearing.

“Michigan, they’ve got to get back to having guys that are going to play on Sunday on that side of the ball and we just have not seen that in a number of years.”


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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:23 PM
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"a more dominant OL"??!?!?!
 
that would imply that it's already somewhat "dominant."  that's pretty funny, considering the OL hasn't even been set, and was getting abused in the scrimmage



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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:19 AM
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Well...we know whose night scrimmage Herbie didn't watch.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:30 AM
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I will say this he has never been a homer for osu on air and he has not smirked at Michigan like Spielman
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:34 AM
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I think Herbie and Spiels both get a bad rap. Herbie stays pretty unbiased and Spiels at one point I thought was on the verge of proposing marriage to Denard because of how much he used to gush about him. Only former Buckeye commentator I have a problem with is Robert Smith.

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:44 AM
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Herbie said it was the most painful Michigan offense to watch in his lifetime last year...haha. It's actually not funny...but as much as Herbie gets on his knees for Nuss, he isn't coaching our OL and he can't fix their deficiencies, which don't seem to be complex or simplicity of a playbook (which was often the excuse last year), rather fundamentals. Deep down I bet Nuss is shocked and disgusted at the development of the OL. Hoke should have the balls to ask him what he thinks of Funk and if he thinks he can pull a better OL coach to AA, and quickly...but Hoke doesn't have the stones to throw one of his pals from the country club under the bus.

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:52 AM
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but Hoke doesn't have the stones to throw one of his pals from the country club under the bus.

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you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?



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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:18 AM
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you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?

Yep, like Borges, who BTW was fired a year too late and after last season even Borges had to think he deserved the axe deep down.

The only reason Borges was fired was either Brandon told Hoke to take out the trash, or Hoke ran out of excuses for Borges, especially when he was doing double time also coming up with excuses for his own failures.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:44 AM
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you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?

Yep, like Borges, who BTW was fired a year too late and after last season even Borges had to think he deserved the axe deep down.

The only reason Borges was fired was either Brandon told Hoke to take out the trash, or Hoke ran out of excuses for Borges, especially when he was doing double time also coming up with excuses for his own failures.

 
doesn't change the fact that hoke still "had the stones" to fire a pal of his, even if it came 1 year too late.  in 2011, offense was pretty damn good, 2012, not so good, but not horrible. in 2013, it was obviously abysmal, and therefore got fired.  you're acting like borges was retained for years on end while having crap offenses
 
 



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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:11 AM
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I can't believe all of you here sucking up to Herbstreit. Have you all forgotten his little "announcement" that Les Miles would become the new HC @ UM right before the SEC Championship game a few years back????

Now I'm not saying Les was headed to AA for sure but Herbstreit announcing that right then ensured that he wasn't headed to AA because he forced him to address it right then & there or risk losing an SEC title & potential national title. Without Herbstreits interference who knows what might have happened.

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:17 AM
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If Nussmeier was an O-line coach by trade I understand the "savior" complex that people have placed on him. As it stands his hands are tied and he's at the mercy of Darrel Funk (so was Borges to be fair but he had his own independent issues). After Nuss was hired Hoke admitted that they never discussed the coaching staff or potentially making changes which to me is silly and irresponsible, on the part of Hoke and Nussmeier. If I`m Nussmeier I don't take the job without having some say in the guys that are responsible for my success and ultimately the team's success. If I`m Hoke I don't hire a guy without him signing off on the guys he's expected to lead.
 
It's bad enough that Hoke can't effectively evaluate his own coaches and shows blind loyalty to his buddies. Having the opportunity to better the staff and by extension the program and not doing so is pure incompetence.
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:30 AM
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but Hoke doesn't have the stones to throw one of his pals from the country club under the bus.

Go Blue!!


you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?

 
Careful MJ, that doesn't fit the narrative around here!  /eyeroll
 
Listen, anyone extrapolating an entire season of play from a single scrimmage two weeks before the first game is welcome to do so.  Here's a novel idea, how about we see how the team does against an opponent before all the hue and cry?  
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:53 AM
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you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?

Yep, like Borges, who BTW was fired a year too late and after last season even Borges had to think he deserved the axe deep down.

The only reason Borges was fired was either Brandon told Hoke to take out the trash, or Hoke ran out of excuses for Borges, especially when he was doing double time also coming up with excuses for his own failures.


doesn't change the fact that hoke still "had the stones" to fire a pal of his, even if it came 1 year too late.  in 2011, offense was pretty damn good, 2012, not so good, but not horrible. in 2013, it was obviously abysmal, and therefore got fired.  you're acting like borges was retained for years on end while having crap offenses

 
But he didn't have the stones. Don't you see that? If someone has to tell you to do something you don't want to do, that in effect means you don't have the stones to do it. Doesn't matter if the move is ultimately made (ala Borges getting fired); doesn't change the fact that Hoke didn't want to make the move but was FORCED too.
 
Brandon is like the Wizard of Oz behind the green screen calling all the shots and Hoke is his puppet. For what it's worth, Brandon was the same way with Rich Rod too which absolutely drove Rich Rod bananas. How many AD's do you know/read about who sit in on Sunday morning film sessions and critique coaches and players after each and every game?
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:58 AM
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So if 3 full seasons of regression isn't enought to extrapolate from what is @scmgoblue?

We can't pontificate on things we haven't seen & unlike a few people around here (/eyroll) not all of us are content with the incessant "wait 'til next year" BS.

Three years of regression is a rather large sample size. At this point it's safe to conclude that if this year or next years team has great success (/twirlhairpopgumlongbreathyeahrighteyeroll) it will be inspite of Brady Hoke not because of him.

Now if you'll excuse me I must go get a tissue to wipe up my hue & tears.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:01 AM
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So if 3 full seasons of regression isn't enought to extrapolate from what is @scmgoblue?

We can't pontificate on things we haven't seen & unlike a few people around here (/eyroll) not all of us are content with the incessant "wait 'til next year" BS.

Three years of regression is a rather large sample size. At this point it's safe to conclude that if this year or next years team has great success (/twirlhairpopgumlongbreathyeahrighteyeroll) it will be inspite of Brady Hoke not because of him.

Now if you'll excuse me I must go get a tissue to wipe up my hue & tears.

 
By no means am I a Hoke supporter, but you're saying that if Hoke loses this season it's his fault, BUT if they win this season it's inspite of Hoke and he deserves no credit?
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34 AM
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I suppose I am. I believe we'll see the same mediocrity we've seen the past 2 seasons but if by some miracle we do pull off an 11 win campaign it will be because of the players & assistants not Hoke. There are rare occasions where luck & talent can trump incomptence. I believe an anomaly is alwaya a possibility in any endevour. Now if Hoke manages to find consistency & have 2,3,4 good to great seasons then he deserves a ton of credit & I'll stand right here & say I was a moron & completely wrong. But until proven otherwise I believe Hoke is only capable of mediocrity & anything above & beyond that must be attributed to something or someone else.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:53 AM
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but Hoke doesn't have the stones to throw one of his pals from the country club under the bus.

Go Blue!!


you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?


Careful MJ, that doesn't fit the narrative around here!  /eyeroll

Listen, anyone extrapolating an entire season of play from a single scrimmage two weeks before the first game is welcome to do so.  Here's a novel idea, how about we see how the team does against an opponent before all the hue and cry?  

So it's blind faith and ignoring contrary evidence you're asking for????
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:29 PM
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I dunno 4life, he asking u for a 15% cut? Lol

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:37 PM
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Oh lord people, take off the aluminum hats. If you honestly think Dave Brandon fired Borges, and is controlling the program from behind a curtain you are a loony toon, and I have beach front property in Nevada to sell you.

Hoke fired Borges. The end.

And, if the OL doesn't improve I'm sure Hoke will fire Funk. Funk got another year because last year the OL had THREE positions where no one had taken a single snap. Now, they have a year of experience and three years in the program. If the OL struggles again I have faith Hoke will make the right choice and fire Funk, just like he did with Borges.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:55 PM
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Oh lord people, take off the aluminum hats. If you honestly think Dave Brandon fired Borges, and is controlling the program from behind a curtain you are a loony toon, and I have beach front property in Nevada to sell you.

Hoke fired Borges. The end.

And, if the OL doesn't improve I'm sure Hoke will fire Funk. Funk got another year because last year the OL had THREE positions where no one had taken a single snap. Now, they have a year of experience and three years in the program. If the OL struggles again I have faith Hoke will make the right choice and fire Funk, just like he did with Borges.

Yet we go into this year with those SAME three spots still up for grabs, and without experience there. The 3 linemen that finished the year against K-State were not the same starters in this spring, they were not the same starters at the beginning of fall camp 3 weeks ago, and they are not the same starters right now, 10 days from the first game.
 
But I guess that's Rich Rod's fault
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:18 PM
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Of course he is going to speak well of Michigan, he wants Hoke to stay around so OSU can continue its dominance. 

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:03 PM
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Oh lord people, take off the aluminum hats. If you honestly think Dave Brandon fired Borges, and is controlling the program from behind a curtain you are a loony toon, and I have beach front property in Nevada to sell you.

Hoke fired Borges. The end.

And, if the OL doesn't improve I'm sure Hoke will fire Funk. Funk got another year because last year the OL had THREE positions where no one had taken a single snap. Now, they have a year of experience and three years in the program. If the OL struggles again I have faith Hoke will make the right choice and fire Funk, just like he did with Borges.

Yet we go into this year with those SAME three spots still up for grabs, and without experience there. The 3 linemen that finished the year against K-State were not the same starters in this spring, they were not the same starters at the beginning of fall camp 3 weeks ago, and they are not the same starters right now, 10 days from the first game.

But I guess that's Rich Rod's fault

 
should coaches be fired for performance based on their respective position groups' practices/camps? (insert allen iverson practice rant)
 
it's pretty simple.  if the OL underperforms this year, in the ACTUAL GAMES, I'll be the first one to call for funk's head.  but to whine and bi*** and complain about varying reports based on PRACTICE, and not games, then you'll NEVER be happy.  let them play some games before you write your judgement in stone
 
 
 



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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:17 PM
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Oh lord people, take off the aluminum hats. If you honestly think Dave Brandon fired Borges, and is controlling the program from behind a curtain you are a loony toon, and I have beach front property in Nevada to sell you.

Hoke fired Borges. The end.

And, if the OL doesn't improve I'm sure Hoke will fire Funk. Funk got another year because last year the OL had THREE positions where no one had taken a single snap. Now, they have a year of experience and three years in the program. If the OL struggles again I have faith Hoke will make the right choice and fire Funk, just like he did with Borges.

Yet we go into this year with those SAME three spots still up for grabs, and without experience there. The 3 linemen that finished the year against K-State were not the same starters in this spring, they were not the same starters at the beginning of fall camp 3 weeks ago, and they are not the same starters right now, 10 days from the first game.

But I guess that's Rich Rod's fault


should coaches be fired for performance based on their respective position groups' practices/camps? (insert allen iverson practice rant)

it's pretty simple.  if the OL underperforms this year, in the ACTUAL GAMES, I'll be the first one to call for funk's head.  but to whine and bi*** and complain about varying reports based on PRACTICE, and not games, then you'll NEVER be happy.  let them play some games before you write your judgement in stone




There are 3 years worth of actual games to judge Funk and the others. Funk shouldn't be fired because of what happened Saturday, he's done enough long before Saturday that's deserving of walking papers. Saturday was just another in the LONG list of examples of the line playing like dogsh*t.
 
You`ll forgive me if I don't hold my breath waiting for magical pixie dust to descend from the sky in the next 10 days and turn Jack Miller into a first round pick. There's no light bulb that going to get pulled, that's not how development works. Provided you do your job, guys gradually get better and progress over a period of time (that time being longer than 2 weeks).
 
What you and others are asking for is blind faith in a coach that hasn't earned it and has no tract record of developing high level linemen. On top of blind faith, you're asking me to ignore evidence to the contrary of line and just believe that everything is going to be okay. Sorry but that's not how this works. For coaches without a good tract record (and especially for those like Funk with a poor record) I remain suspicious until proven otherwise, NOT the other way around. The line would have needed to play well on Saturday, and in the spring, and last season for me to feel any semblance of confidence in their ability for the upcoming season.
 
The line (and Funk) haven't earned the benefit of "wait and see".
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:39 PM
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:23 PM
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Right there with you MJackson. Thank you for bringing logic to the forum. If the OL struggles again this year, then he should be let go. I too am waiting for an actual game in 2014 before I freak out.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:25 PM
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And thank you coach funk, for bringing us back to relevancy in 2014.


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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:38 PM
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Herbstreit's a giant tool, an OSU tool ta' boot!

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:53 AM
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I've always found it interesting that while Rodriguez improved his win record every year, Hoke has done the opposite yet he should 'get at least another year', he's the coach of the future, Rod left us with nothing, we're ALWAYS young, etc etc.  Rod got exactly what he earned and deserved-sh** canned.  Yet, Hoke somehow seems to get the time honored notion of 'wait 'til next year'.  I'm not lobbying for Hoke to get fired tomorrow, not at all.  But it just shows if people like somebody it's far more powerful than facts or even intuition and that will never change.  Like every coach since Bo, you either love them or hate them and there's rarely people that will change their minds no matter what the coach does.  

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:58 AM
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I've always found it interesting that while Rodriguez improved his win record every year, Hoke has done the opposite yet he should 'get at least another year', he's the coach of the future, Rod left us with nothing, we're ALWAYS young, etc etc.  Rod got exactly what he earned and deserved-sh** canned.  Yet, Hoke somehow seems to get the time honored notion of 'wait 'til next year'.  I'm not lobbying for Hoke to get fired tomorrow, not at all.  But it just shows if people like somebody it's far more powerful than facts or even intuition and that will never change.  Like every coach since Bo, you either love them or hate them and there's rarely people that will change their minds no matter what the coach does.  

Well said TK.  I'm a Hoke supporter, but the main reason for that is because he is the coach at Michigan.  For that same reason, I also was a Rich Rod supporter. 
 
I supported Rich Rod until the evidence became painfully obvious that he wasn't a good fit at Michigan.  Yes, our record may have improved every year under Rich Rod, but the defensive decline we all witnessed over the last 2 years of his regime was just too much to ignore.  I mean, how bad can you get when you field the worst defensive team statistically in the storied history of Michigan Football only to follow that up with an even worse defense the following year?  THAT is why my support for Rich Rod finally came to an end.
 
And now, I am supporting Hoke and I am hoping we see signs of actual improvement this year.  But, just like Rich Rod, this is a pivotal year for me and my support for Hoke.  On one hand, I don't like the idea of starting over with another new coach as we've seen how well the revolving coaching door has worked at ND.  But, on the other hand, if we have another year of mediocracy like we've seen over the past two seasons, especially with the relatively favorable schedule we have this year, then I'm sorry, but my support for Hoke will begin to be in doubt.  There are things that encouraged me over the last off season highlighted by the firing of the offensive genius that was Al Borges.  But, at the same time, there are also glaring flags like not recognizing what a liability Daryl Funk is to this offense as well.  I mean, if we have yet another year to endure putrid play from a unit that is made up of possibly the highest rated recruits of any unit on this football team, that will really cause me to question Hoke's ability to lead this football team going forward.
 
All in all, I'm still a Hoke supporter, but I'm also in 'Show Me' mode this season.  Hoke needs to show me improvement from a record perspective as well as from a player development perspective or my support for him will begin to dwindle more and more...

 

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:43 AM
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I support Hoke as well, because he is Michigan's HC. same as I supported RR, LC, No little young to have supported Bo. ;)

With that said, I think whole heartedly if RR would've had Casteel with him as DC, I'm 90% sure he is still our HC today.......now, what I dread, is saying the same thing in a few years about Hoke and his O line coach........why did he keep this clown?

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:44 AM
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Agree I was with Rich Rod until the defenses played terrible (and that is putting it nicely). I have said that I want to give Hoke 4 years so this is it. An improvement is a given since we won only 7 games last year so I want to see at least 10 wins which is feasible with the schedule.

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:47 AM
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Hell I'd take 8 solid wins, as long as were not being man handled, dominated, and our o line isn't getting ran over all season. I'm not expecting a BIG champion season

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:50 AM
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Isn't that essentially what Hoke has done? Just offensively? We were in the 80's and 100's in most offensive statistical categories last year after 50s and 80s in offense in 2012. We've just switched the side of the ball we suck on.
 
We're in the same spot we were in with Rich Rod IMO. We still can't beat O$U, still can't beat Sparty, still get embarrassed in bowl games and big OOC games. Recruiting is "better" but we haven't developed guys worth a damn so it really hasn't mattered.
 
For whatever reason though, people feel better about Hoke.
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Well said TK.  I'm a Hoke supporter, but the main reason for that is because he is the coach at Michigan.  For that same reason, I also was a Rich Rod supporter. 

I supported Rich Rod until the evidence became painfully obvious that he wasn't a good fit at Michigan.  Yes, our record may have improved every year under Rich Rod, but the defensive decline we all witnessed over the last 2 years of his regime was just too much to ignore.  I mean, how bad can you get when you field the worst defensive team statistically in the storied history of Michigan Football only to follow that up with an even worse defense the following year?  THAT is why my support for Rich Rod finally came to an end.

And now, I am supporting Hoke and I am hoping we see signs of actual improvement this year.  But, just like Rich Rod, this is a pivotal year for me and my support for Hoke.  On one hand, I don't like the idea of starting over with another new coach as we've seen how well the revolving coaching door has worked at ND.  But, on the other hand, if we have another year of mediocracy like we've seen over the past two seasons, especially with the relatively favorable schedule we have this year, then I'm sorry, but my support for Hoke will begin to be in doubt.  There are things that encouraged me over the last off season highlighted by the firing of the offensive genius that was Al Borges.  But, at the same time, there are also glaring flags like not recognizing what a liability Daryl Funk is to this offense as well.  I mean, if we have yet another year to endure putrid play from a unit that is made up of possibly the highest rated recruits of any unit on this football team, that will really cause me to question Hoke's ability to lead this football team going forward.

All in all, I'm still a Hoke supporter, but I'm also in 'Show Me' mode this season.  Hoke needs to show me improvement from a record perspective as well as from a player development perspective or my support for him will begin to dwindle more and more...


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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:52 AM
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Were definintely still lil sister that's for sure.

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Friday, August 22, 2014 9:56 AM
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I support Hoke as well, because he is Michigan's HC. same as I supported RR, LC, No little young to have supported Bo. ;)

With that said, I think whole heartedly if RR would've had Casteel with him as DC, I'm 90% sure he is still our HC today.......now, what I dread, is saying the same thing in a few years about Hoke and his O line coach........why did he keep this clown?

 
Believe me, there were PLENTY of fans who got pi$$ed at Bo every game.  You're talking about one of the most conservative coaches in history who couldn't win a bowl game.  BUT...nobody developed better O and D lines at Michigan than Bo.  We never went into a season worrying about the defense or the offensive line.  The only question with the offensive line was how many would finish the year as All-Americans.  (forget All-Big Ten-that was a lock.)  Those days are SOOO far gone it's scary.

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan - Friday, August 22, 2014 12:24 PM
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Sad really. Used to take all that stuff for granted.