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Starting OL will be... - Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:11 PM
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Mags will start at LT, Glasgow at C and Braden at RT….the 2 guards spots are what seem to be up in the air going into fall camp and I'm guessing Bosch and Kalis nail those down.

Hoke said Glasgow will start at center...and Kulger and Miller will battle it out in fall practice for the Game 1 start. I have a sense it will be Miller just based off real game experience. But Kulger is a smart kid and has added strength this off-season. That said, Hoke will start Glasgow with the 1st team when camp gets under way. And I'm sure that's because he wants to get a 5 man unit in place sooner than later...2 weeks into camp, max.

Kalis better put his flute away this year and come to play big boy football...or I'm going to shove that thing right up his ass when I'm at the Big House this season.

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:13 PM
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Two deep something like this:
LT- Mags, Cole
LG- Bosch
C- Glasgow, Miller, Kugler
RG- Kalis
RT- Braden, Dawson
LTT- Tackle, Samuelson- Guard, Fox- Tackle, JBB- Tackle, Bars- Guard
 
Big battle for who the first guard off the bench is. Could move Glasgow to guard and play Miller/Kugler at center if one of the guards get injured. 

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:51 PM
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Thus far, a who's who of who cares.
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:38 PM
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Magnuson-Bosch-Glasgow-Kalis-Braden IMO and, hopefully, will get every chance to develop some real chemistry & cohesion.
 
Not totally sold on Miller, so hope Kugler is ready to make the position his, if necessary. Also, hope Kalis & Dawson are ready to live up to their billing. Any word on how Tulley-Tillman, Bars & Fox are progressing? It appears we have plenty of talent, competition & depth at the position but it won't mean a thing, if the OL doesn't make a huge improvement in 2014!
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:19 PM
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Thus far, a who's who of who cares.

 
 
You cared enough to respond to the thread.

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 10:08 AM
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The first team OL in Friday's practice:

LT - Cole
LG - Magnuson
C - Miller
RG - Glasgow & Dawson
RT - Braden

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 10:40 AM
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Starting o line will be.......





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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 10:47 AM
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Starting o line will be.......





Terrible.

I was going say absolutely brutal but terrible works too.

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 4:33 PM
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Really surprised that Magnuson is currently at guard and Cole is at tackle. Hopefully Cole is a once in a generation talent or this doesn't bode well.
 
FYI if you watched the press conference I had the last question about if he Hoke considered getting more practice away from the Big House.
 
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 7:02 PM
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How much do you guys think having 2 new guards(IIRC) and your starting center sitting out will effect UM's interior protection/run block play? 

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 7:22 PM
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Our entire OL is a question mark. Last year the interior of the OL was awful and we are hoping another year in the weight room give them added push. Losing both our tackles to the NFL makes the edges a question mark too. 
 
Most of us thought Magnuson would be at LT....but now it is showing him at LG and I am not sure anyone was expecting Cole to be anything but a backup (I am not sure if it is because Cole has been that impressive or that everyone just blows).

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 8:03 PM
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Really surprised that Magnuson is currently at guard and Cole is at tackle. Hopefully Cole is a once in a generation talent or this doesn't bode well.

FYI if you watched the press conference I had the last question about if he Hoke considered getting more practice away from the Big House.


which press conf, Phil? And what was his answer? I bet I can start his answer for him, with a "wellllllllll"

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 8:14 PM
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Thus far, a who's who of who cares.



You cared enough to respond to the thread.

You misunderstood the theme of the post, which was that no one particularly noteworthy with be starting.
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:14 PM
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My predictions for our starting line up, at LT I pick this guy,
 
At LG:

 
Cant leave out the Center:

 
RG:

 
last but not least, the RT:

 
According to Coach Funk, these are some pretty tough, Cats.......
 
 
 
 

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:41 PM
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So lets hope the backs can also block unlike last year. Im real glad Lewan is gone he was a cream puff
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Saturday, August 09, 2014 10:06 PM
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I expect the OL combinations to change quite frequently at the beginning this week and next week before solidifying itself 2 weeks before the season opener with 5 guys...at least I hope.

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Monday, August 11, 2014 5:34 PM
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I want to be hopeful our OL will be better….but I should know better and won’t get rid of my uneasiness until I see it live. My initial thoughts from everything I’ve read is they still suck and don’t seem to have improved one bit from last season.

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Monday, August 11, 2014 6:37 PM
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Pretty certain that what they are doing right now is trying Cole out to see if he can find a natural spot in the top 5, they already know Magnuson is going to play, so why not move Cole around and see if he fits the bill?  Supposedly will have things more nailed down next week if I'm reading the press conferences correctly...
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Monday, August 11, 2014 7:50 PM
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He said that they had considered it and had done it in the past. Now here is where my jaw dropped- the last time they did it was before the Alabama game and he said it worked out well. GULP after the spanking Alabama gave Michigan I might be gun shy of practicing at Ford Field again too. 
 
 
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Thursday, August 14, 2014 5:08 PM
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Brady Hoke

"I think the development (with what) that unit has done has been real positive," Hoke said. "A guy like Ben Braden from Rockford, right now, he’s our right tackle. And I’d expect him to be our right tackle on the (Aug. 30 against Appalachian State).
 
"But, you know, they've all improved and they've all gained vital experience. It's very competitive, but I think we're getting closer to being where we want to be."

 
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:30 PM
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Braden locking down the RT spot is a pleasant development considering the hype he came in with, hopeful that what we are hearing about Miller beating out Glasgow for center actually holds and that allows us to use Glasgow at one of the guard spots...
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:20 PM
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Hoke thinks? How does he not know? I mean come on man your the freaking coach….
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:10 PM
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Sounding like Cole will be the starter at LT come August 30th......
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:34 PM
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....the ones that take the field on the first offensive series on Aug 30, 2014!

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 1:10 AM
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tweets from angelique:
 
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Hoke said Kalis has been held out w back (doesn't sound major), would be a starter. Miller has edge at center over Glasgow (out 1st game)

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@ gcappellini79 I asked if Glasgow were eligible for first game.... Hoke still said Miller has edge
 
against app state, it sounds like the starting OL will be Cole-Mags-Miller-Kalis-Braden.  sounds like miller is outperforming glasgow, even if he were eligible to play



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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 7:28 AM
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Hoke said Kalis has been held out w back (doesn't sound major), would be a starter. Miller has edge at center over Glasgow (out 1st game)
 
Mason Cole, Erik Magnuson, Jack Miller, Graham Glasgow and Ben Braden is likely your starting OL. per Hoke.
 
Looks like we have a starting O
 
 

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 8:04 AM
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Miller looked STOUT in the Michigan drill on the practice video I saw.

Also what is wrong wIth Funchy? I hear he is injured?

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 8:15 AM
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Miller looked STOUT in the Michigan drill on the practice video I saw.

Also what is wrong wIth Funchy? I hear he is injured?

 
I am hoping it's just, I am Devon Funchness and I don't need to practice.

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 8:20 AM
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Said Funchess is just precautionary. They know what he's got so they're probably not as worried about him missing a practice. 

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 8:37 AM
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Seeing how he can get a high school senior ready to play LT as a true freshman, maybe we should hire East Lake's O-line coach to take over our line.
 
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 8:43 AM
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Seeing how he can get a high school senior ready to play LT as a true freshman, maybe we should hire East Lake's O-line coach to take over our line.

 
Well Bama is starting a true freshman at LT.

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 9:00 AM
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Funny how last year everyone complained about "why can't they play the young guys on the oline?" People thought we should've played true freshman Kalis in 2012. Yet here we are, potentially playing a true freshman on the OL week one, and everyone is losing their minds. 

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 9:24 AM
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Funny how last year everyone complained about "why can't they play the young guys on the oline?" People thought we should've played true freshman Kalis in 2012. Yet here we are, potentially playing a true freshman on the OL week one, and everyone is losing their minds. 

What was the response though? And that was about sophomores. Suddenly the story has changed, all last year it was "young guys take time, young guys take time" Fast forward a year and nope, Mason Cole is ready to be Jonathan Ogden? And those "young sophomores" are apparently still young and unprepared.
 
I`ve said from the jump I think young guys are capable, it's happening around the country. OUR young guys (and apparently even older guys) aren't capable and it has nothing to do with youth!
 
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 9:29 AM
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Funny how last year everyone complained about "why can't they play the young guys on the oline?" People thought we should've played true freshman Kalis in 2012. Yet here we are, potentially playing a true freshman on the OL week one, and everyone is losing their minds. 

What was the response though? And that was about sophomores. Suddenly the story has changed, all last year it was "young guys take time, young guys take time" Fast forward a year and nope, Mason Cole is ready to be Jonathan Ogden? And those "young sophomores" are apparently still young and unprepared.

I`ve said from the jump I think young guys are capable, it's happening around the country. OUR young guys (and apparently even older guys) aren't capable and it has nothing to do with youth!

 
We either picked the wrong young guys who are no good OR we have sh*tty coaching.
 
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 9:35 AM
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You either want young guys to play or you don't, can't stand on both sides of the fence. None of us have even seen Cole in action so lets pump the brakes on saying he's not capable. 
 
Additionally, and I have stated this to MF4L, who gives a **** what we roll out starting lineup wise against App St? I'm more interested in what the lineup is September 6th as I think THAT will be the real deal.

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 9:44 AM
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Funny how last year everyone complained about "why can't they play the young guys on the oline?" People thought we should've played true freshman Kalis in 2012. Yet here we are, potentially playing a true freshman on the OL week one, and everyone is losing their minds. 

What was the response though? And that was about sophomores. Suddenly the story has changed, all last year it was "young guys take time, young guys take time" Fast forward a year and nope, Mason Cole is ready to be Jonathan Ogden? And those "young sophomores" are apparently still young and unprepared.

I`ve said from the jump I think young guys are capable, it's happening around the country. OUR young guys (and apparently even older guys) aren't capable and it has nothing to do with youth!

 
I am still not convince it was our young guys issue last year.  I still think Borges had more to do with the offenses issues than a lot os us think.
 
Look at what Mattison has done with less talent on the defense.

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 9:46 AM
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There's a reason why Cole would be the first true FR at Michigan to start a game at LT during the FR eligible era (1972).
 
I have no idea if Cole is any good or not and I don't know if it's a good sign that an 18yr OL walked onto campus and took the LT job and beat out 2-3-4 year players.
 
The proof will be in the pudding in a couple weeks and there will be growing pains with him. Obviously, he has talent so I'm going to give him time to learn and develop. Baptism by fire...
 
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 9:48 AM
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You either want young guys to play or you don't, can't stand on both sides of the fence. None of us have even seen Cole in action so lets pump the brakes on saying he's not capable. 

Additionally, and I have stated this to MF4L, who gives a **** what we roll out starting lineup wise against App St? I'm more interested in what the lineup is September 6th as I think THAT will be the real deal.

I`m not standing on the fence. We have sh*tty o-line coaching, so it doesn't matter if guys are young or old. We (coaches, DB, and fans) are using youth as an excuse for poor development. I don't NOT want young guys to play, I've been screaming that our guys should be ready to play earlier than we get them out.
 
Here's rub though, I don't for a second believe that Mason Cole being #1 on the depth chart at LT, and getting 95% of the first team reps at LT (why it matters who starts now) is a sign that he's an all-world freshman. Being ahead of the 10 linemen signed between the 2012 and 2013 classes says more about the development of those 10 linemen than it does Mason Cole IMO. Now maybe I`m wrong and he's better than Jake Long, Taylor Lewan, Jeff Backus, and every other LT that has played at Michigan over the years at the same age.
 
p.s If we roll out someone other than Mason Cole on Sept 6, that player will have taken just one week of 1st team reps prior to the game and odds are they aren't gonna be ready. That is why I care about what's happening now. I don't think some LT to be named later is going to suddenly turn into a good LT in a week.
 
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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 9:54 AM
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There's a reason why Cole would be the first true FR at Michigan to start a game at LT during the FR eligible era (1972).

I have no idea if Cole is any good or not and I don't know if it's a good sign that an 18yr OL walked onto campus and took the LT job and beat out 2-3-4 year players.

The proof will be in the pudding in a couple weeks and there will be growing pains with him. Obviously, he has talent so I'm going to give him time to learn and develop. Baptism by fire...

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Good point 

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Re:Starting OL will be... - Friday, August 15, 2014 10:10 AM
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Seeing how he can get a high school senior ready to play LT as a true freshman, maybe we should hire East Lake's O-line coach to take over our line.


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