UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case

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UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:01 PM
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http://www.mlive.com/wolv...ent_government_re.html

Does this change your opinion of hoke?

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:49 PM
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Apparently, Hoke kept repeating the company line on the matter.

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 12:49 AM
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If that's the case, everyones wish of Hoke being fired will come true.

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 6:55 AM
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Deception


If that's the case, everyones wish of Hoke being fired will come true.

 
Really?  How so?  What rule did he violate?

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 7:47 AM
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He did not lie, good lord.
 
 

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 7:52 AM
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swoosh


He did not lie, good lord.



How did he not lie?  A family matter is different then saying an academic matter or team discipline.  Family matter can evoke feelings of empathy or sympathy. Feelings that I would not want to give to a rapist.

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 7:55 AM
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First he was not convicted of anything, second getting kicked out of school is a family matter.  You just slandered the kids name.

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 8:02 AM
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Saying it was academic discipline is not slander especially if its true.  The report is a matter of public record.  With your logic, expulsion of Tate Forcier was a family matter too?  However, the school said it was academic. Where is the consistency?

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 8:11 AM
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Youre Grasping at straws.
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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 8:14 AM
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We've known he lied, lying to the media isn't a fireable offense though. Happens all the time actually.
 
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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 8:29 AM
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vixblue


Saying it was academic discipline is not slander especially if its true.  The report is a matter of public record.  With your logic, expulsion of Tate Forcier was a family matter too?  However, the school said it was academic. Where is the consistency?

You called the kid a rapist, that's slander.
How did he not lie?  A family matter is different then saying an academic matter or team discipline.  Family matter can evoke feelings of empathy or sympathy. Feelings that I would not want to give to a rapist
 

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 8:32 AM
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Ah geez,  come on Swoosh, now you are just being petty.  Try arguing with facts.  Apparently some governing board (UM) found enough evidence of a sexual crime. 

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 8:41 AM
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I am not the one being petty, and I am no Hoke fan at all these days.  I am not going to try and makeup issue when none exist.
 
 

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 9:10 AM
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yeah, some governing board found evidence 4 years later just as Gibbons' career was coming to an end.  Dude should have never set foot on the field until a real investigation was launched when he was freshman.
 
 
the way the whole thing has been handled since day 1 is disgusting.  And it isn't limited to just Michigan either.  It's an epidemic on college campuses nationwide.


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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 9:22 AM
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This is a university problem, not necessarily a Hoke problem.  He can say whatever he wants to the press-it's not like he lied under oath in a criminal investigation as there isn't one in this case.  Nobody is owed an explanation as to a players suspension under a school matter.  Hoke will eventually get shi*-canned for his coaching ability.  This is a reach.

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 9:50 AM
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If he played Gibbons vs Iowa while knowing he the investigation had been reopened, then he's a disgusting human being.


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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 10:33 AM
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WolvyMike


If he played Gibbons vs Iowa while knowing he the investigation had been reopened, then he's a disgusting human being.

 
So, you're saying that Hoke is a disgusting human being because Gibbons did play against Iowa. He was 3-3 in extra points. I can't remember but I think Hoke and Gibbons found out earlier that week the investigation was being re-opened.
 
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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 10:51 AM
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People who don't like Hoke are going to reach for anything they can get. Was the same for RR.

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 10:56 AM
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WolvyMike


If he played Gibbons vs Iowa while knowing he the investigation had been reopened, then he's a disgusting human being.

 
So if you're investigated by this body at Michigan you are automatically guilty?  
 
 

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 11:14 AM
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Gibbons was expelled for his actions last I checked. This was a little more than an investigation or accusations. The University found enough evidence to boot the guy from school.
 
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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 11:22 AM
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Yep, but at the time of the Iowa game it was still just in investigation mode.  Mike is stating because Hoke played him he is horrible human being.  I am just  talking the week of Iowa game, at that moment in time.
 
 

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 11:31 AM
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you shouldn't be on the field playing if you're being investigated for rape a second time.  That's all I'm saying.  There's more important stuff in life than playing a football game.
 
 
It all goes back to whoever screwed the pooch in the beginning.  If universities actually took these allegations seriously, we wouldn't be having this conversation. 


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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 11:33 AM
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Mike we agree on your lat statement 100%

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Re:UM report: hoke lied about gibbons case - Monday, April 14, 2014 11:33 AM
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swoosh


Yep, but at the time of the Iowa game it was still just in investigation mode.  Mike is stating because Hoke played him he is horrible human being.  I am just  talking the week of Iowa game, at that moment in time.



maybe horrible human being is a bit rash on my part.  But still, as a father with daughters, I wouldn't have played him knowing there was an active investigation going on.  If he didn't know until after the Iowa game, so be it.