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NCAA considering football early signing period - Friday, March 07, 2014 11:20 AM
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http://m.espn.go.com/wire../story?storyId=10566757



College football is taking steps toward an early signing period, according to the NCAA official who manages the National Letter of Intent program.

Susan Peal, NCAA associate director of operations, said the continued acceleration of recruiting has led the Conference Commissioners Association to consider an earlier date to supplement the long-existing date in February, similar to the structure for basketball and other sports.

"I think everyone wants an early signing period," Peal said this week. "It's just trying to nail down what's the appropriate date for that."


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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Friday, March 07, 2014 3:46 PM
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Badly needed, along with early official visits.
 
August 1st makes the most sense IMO.
 
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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Friday, March 07, 2014 3:56 PM
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I called this months ago on the recruiting board. One of the guys I follow on Twitter supposedly had the story leaked to him.
"Character wins in life and character wins on the football field." — Michigan coach Brady Hoke. 

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Friday, March 07, 2014 4:05 PM
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It will be fought by coaches/schools that like to steal players late in the game. There's also the concern that you trap kids who change their minds.
 
There aren't huge problems in basketball with the early period though.
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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:51 AM
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Stanford coach David Shaw

"I might be alone in this, I think it's terrible," Shaw said following the Cardinal's spring practice Saturday. "I think it's terrible. The reason [for an early signing period], in my opinion, is coaches don't like when kids commit and switch late."

"What's going to happen is, if a kid wants to change his mind late after the early signing period, he's going to appeal and that appeal is going to go through because the committees that decide those appeals, they always give in towards the student-athlete," Shaw said.

"So you have a kid that might be 16 going on 17 that commits and then really has a chance to think about it and changes his mind and we're going to try and hold him to it.

"On top of that -- and I'll be honest here, which is rare for a football coach in a setting like this -- but we have a lot of kids that don't know if they're going to get into school until after that early signing day," Shaw said. "So we're going to punish the academic schools just because coaches don't want a kid to switch their commitment?

"People can make whatever argument they want, it boils down to that. ... Coaches don't want to keep recruiting an entire class all year."

The concept of an early signing signing period would create challenges at Stanford that other schools would be immune to due to its strict admissions process. Shaw said that fewer than half of the program's recent 20-man recruiting class was admitted to the university before November, and the final admission didn't occur until the weekend before signing day.

"That's a kid we never would have gotten because someone would have pressured him into forcing him to sign some place because they say, 'You don't know if you're getting into Stanford so you got to sign with us,' " Shaw said. "I don't think these kids should be pressured into decisions, and that's what this is all about."


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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Friday, May 23, 2014 8:53 AM
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http://m.espn.go.com/gene...ww.google.com%2F%22%7D



CBSsports.com reported Tuesday that more than half of the Big Ten recruits in the 2014 class come from areas outside the league's current footprint (Maryland and New Jersey not included).

"It would help everybody," Hoke said. "The other conferences aren't just staying in their region, either. They're all spreading out through the country.

"You've got guys on unofficials and families spending a lot of money. What can we do to help them and help their families?"


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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Friday, May 23, 2014 9:47 AM
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You can always count on coaches to look out for their own best interests. Shaw could care less about the kids, an early signing period could hurt Stanford. That's the only thing he cares about.
 
Just like Saban and the 10 second rule, and the coaches who opposed it.
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Stanford coach David Shaw

"I might be alone in this, I think it's terrible," Shaw said following the Cardinal's spring practice Saturday. "I think it's terrible. The reason [for an early signing period], in my opinion, is coaches don't like when kids commit and switch late."

"What's going to happen is, if a kid wants to change his mind late after the early signing period, he's going to appeal and that appeal is going to go through because the committees that decide those appeals, they always give in towards the student-athlete," Shaw said.

"So you have a kid that might be 16 going on 17 that commits and then really has a chance to think about it and changes his mind and we're going to try and hold him to it.

"On top of that -- and I'll be honest here, which is rare for a football coach in a setting like this -- but we have a lot of kids that don't know if they're going to get into school until after that early signing day," Shaw said. "So we're going to punish the academic schools just because coaches don't want a kid to switch their commitment?

"People can make whatever argument they want, it boils down to that. ... Coaches don't want to keep recruiting an entire class all year."

The concept of an early signing signing period would create challenges at Stanford that other schools would be immune to due to its strict admissions process. Shaw said that fewer than half of the program's recent 20-man recruiting class was admitted to the university before November, and the final admission didn't occur until the weekend before signing day.

"That's a kid we never would have gotten because someone would have pressured him into forcing him to sign some place because they say, 'You don't know if you're getting into Stanford so you got to sign with us,' " Shaw said. "I don't think these kids should be pressured into decisions, and that's what this is all about."


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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Friday, May 23, 2014 10:20 AM
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If people think Hoke/most coaches want this because they care about the kids and not about losing commits AFTER they commit then you're just fooling yourself. 


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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Friday, May 23, 2014 1:53 PM
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Its for the children really. Come on let's all jump aboard the progressive lib train together!

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Friday, May 23, 2014 7:02 PM
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jsj_297


Its for the children really. Come on let's all jump aboard the progressive lib train together!

 
Quite possibly the best post I've read on this forum, kudos.
 
Whether or not this gets instituted won't matter in the end anyway, as we are quickly headed to "student employees" rather than athletes. They'll be signing contracts instead of national letters of intent. Should be fun & agonizing to watch that mess play out. I wonder what the buyout will be for QB 3 when he decides he wants to transfer from Michigan to pO$U, I can see that conversation playing out "sorry QB 3 you see right here in your contract the buyout to play at pO$U is $100,000 & since you don't have a 100 grand you cant go, but we will gladly let you transfer to South Dakota State for a measly $2,500."...Good God I think I just heard Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson's motorcades turn toward Ann Arbor!!!!  

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:46 AM
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Jabes0623


jsj_297


Its for the children really. Come on let's all jump aboard the progressive lib train together!


Quite possibly the best post I've read on this forum, kudos.

Whether or not this gets instituted won't matter in the end anyway, as we are quickly headed to "student employees" rather than athletes. They'll be signing contracts instead of national letters of intent. Should be fun & agonizing to watch that mess play out. I wonder what the buyout will be for QB 3 when he decides he wants to transfer from Michigan to pO$U, I can see that conversation playing out "sorry QB 3 you see right here in your contract the buyout to play at pO$U is $100,000 & since you don't have a 100 grand you cant go, but we will gladly let you transfer to South Dakota State for a measly $2,500."...Good God I think I just heard Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson's motorcades turn toward Ann Arbor!!!!  

 
I guess reading isn't your thing.

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:51 AM
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^^ ONLY QAUGMIRE! GIGGITY GIGGITY

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:52 PM
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TK23Blue
I guess reading isn't your thing.

His comment was short, direct, funny, sarcastic, & my personal favorite it needled both the NCAA & the loathsome Liberals all at once. Managing to accomplish all of those literary feats in a sentence is pretty damn impressive...Drawing accurate conclusions about what someone's "thing" is clearly is not your "thing."

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Monday, May 26, 2014 11:45 AM
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TK23Blue
I guess reading isn't your thing.

His comment was short, direct, funny, sarcastic, & my personal favorite it needled both the NCAA & the loathsome Liberals all at once. Managing to accomplish all of those literary feats in a sentence is pretty damn impressive...Drawing accurate conclusions about what someone's "thing" is clearly is not your "thing."

Then let's try a new thing.  Spare us your political blatherings on a Michigan sports forum, specifically a recruiting forum, as nobody gives a squirt of pi$$ about what you consider loathsome and "literary feats".  There's an 'Everything Else' section here so try it out.  You can start a thread, marvel at your literary feats and political rants, shout at the rain, and respond to yourself.  Try it-it just might be your thing. The rest of us will talk Michigan Football.  

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Monday, May 26, 2014 3:15 PM
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@TK23 I appear to have struck a nerve, the funny thing is I kept my initial comment to the subject at hand. You were the one who jumped track & got personal. I understand that personal responsibility & accountability for your actions can be a difficult concept for some groups to grasp so no hard feelings for blaming me for what I did not do. As far as my "political blatherings", I was unaware that I had blathered, I merely addressed my reasoning behind my earlier comment that seemed to trouble you. Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your thing, I understand Hooked On Phonics has a program that helps people with those issues. I hope I have cleared up the issues that you are having with me & your lack of ability to comprehend. I had a friend once who had the same difficulties, he switched to a different brand of manpon & has experienced far less butt hurt over insignificant matters ever since. Of course if all else fails I will gladly pass along some advice I have shared with a few other people who have had similar difficulties. If you do not like my work do not watch, because I couldn't give half a squirt of wee-wee what you think about what I post. Happy Memorial Day Chief:)

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:12 AM
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LOL.  You're a child-sit and color.

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:13 PM
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@TK23 I appear to have struck a nerve, the funny thing is I kept my initial comment to the subject at hand. You were the one who jumped track & got personal. I understand that personal responsibility & accountability for your actions can be a difficult concept for some groups to grasp so no hard feelings for blaming me for what I did not do. As far as my "political blatherings", I was unaware that I had blathered, I merely addressed my reasoning behind my earlier comment that seemed to trouble you. Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your thing, I understand Hooked On Phonics has a program that helps people with those issues. I hope I have cleared up the issues that you are having with me & your lack of ability to comprehend. I had a friend once who had the same difficulties, he switched to a different brand of manpon & has experienced far less butt hurt over insignificant matters ever since. Of course if all else fails I will gladly pass along some advice I have shared with a few other people who have had similar difficulties. If you do not like my work do not watch, because I couldn't give half a squirt of wee-wee what you think about what I post. Happy Memorial Day Chief:)

You seem nice.
 


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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:24 PM
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@zjgm Lol oh the irony. That's hilarious, but weak, if we were in 8th grade you'd be the king. I must admit I don't get the mentality on this forum. TK23 runs his mouth, I good naturedly jab him back & then he gets his panties all in a twist. You jump in the middle of a conversation that doesn't in any way involve you & sarcastically call me "nice" & then passive aggressively call me a f*g, which is far more insulting than anything I've said to anyone here. Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less if you call me a f*g or anything else, sticks & stones. Overall I enjoy this forum, it's nice to be able to talk UM football with people of reasonable intelligence & some passion. But a few of you guys have 2 sets of rules & insanely thin skin & frankly it's a little pathetic. Can't men just have a disagreement without everyone whining, crying, & people jumping in the middle of it? Perhaps I'm too old school for this place, or perhaps a few members here just need to strap on a pair.

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:45 PM
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@zjgm Lol oh the irony. That's hilarious, but weak, if we were in 8th grade you'd be the king. I must admit I don't get the mentality on this forum. TK23 runs his mouth, I good naturedly jab him back & then he gets his panties all in a twist. You jump in the middle of a conversation that doesn't in any way involve you & sarcastically call me "nice" & then passive aggressively call me a f*g, which is far more insulting than anything I've said to anyone here. Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less if you call me a f*g or anything else, sticks & stones. Overall I enjoy this forum, it's nice to be able to talk UM football with people of reasonable intelligence & some passion. But a few of you guys have 2 sets of rules & insanely thin skin & frankly it's a little pathetic. Can't men just have a disagreement without everyone whining, crying, & people jumping in the middle of it? Perhaps I'm too old school for this place, or perhaps a few members here just need to strap on a pair.

 
You posted this in another thread about scmgoblue:
 
"I don't care what you have to say you've clearly lost touch with reality. You should probably have your doctor up your dose of anti-psychotic meds, good God what an ass."
 
And, you also posted this in that same thread:
 
"If what I said today is ban worthy then please bury my profile face down so that Johnny3435 & scmgoblue can kiss my ass"
 
I didn't respond to it because I didn't feel the need, but then you get upset about zjgm's post (who defended you in that other post, BTW), then talk about other people getting their panties in a twist and being insulted by others? Wait, what?

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:55 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less if you call me a f*g or anything else, sticks & stones.

Of course you don't care.  You just took the time to post that paragraph for grins.
 

 
 
It's no big mystery.  Many of us have been here a long time and we know each other enough that there's context when we break balls.  You don't just walk up to a group of strangers in everyday life and join in on the ball-busting without being called on it.  Things are no different here.

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:12 PM
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You 2 are jumping to the wrong conclusion, I'm in no way upset by what was said to me here. Or any where else on the Internet for that matter, it's pointless, not like we're going to meet & fight so no need in being upset. I just find the double standards here amusing & as I mentioned a little pathetic. As far as zjgm taking up for me in another thread, I didn't ask for his help nor did I need it, I happened to be right & we agreed but just because we agreed yesterday doesn't mean we are going to agree today & just because we disagree today doesn't mean we won't agree tomorrow. This is an Internet message board not the Supreme Court, lighten up ladies.

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:56 PM
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@zjgm Lol oh the irony. That's hilarious, but weak, if we were in 8th grade you'd be the king. I must admit I don't get the mentality on this forum. TK23 runs his mouth, I good naturedly jab him back & then he gets his panties all in a twist. You jump in the middle of a conversation that doesn't in any way involve you & sarcastically call me "nice" & then passive aggressively call me a f*g, which is far more insulting than anything I've said to anyone here. Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less if you call me a f*g or anything else, sticks & stones. Overall I enjoy this forum, it's nice to be able to talk UM football with people of reasonable intelligence & some passion. But a few of you guys have 2 sets of rules & insanely thin skin & frankly it's a little pathetic. Can't men just have a disagreement without everyone whining, crying, & people jumping in the middle of it? Perhaps I'm too old school for this place, or perhaps a few members here just need to strap on a pair.


I love the mentality of this board, we got a wiiiiiiide range of attitudes, sarcasm, serious types, angry and unhappies to friendly and hilarious. We all have posters we butt heads with. For myself, I'm pretty sure UMWing wouldn't shed a tear if I were ripped apart by a pack of wolves, but that's cool. TK is from what I gather a more serious with a hint of sarcasm, and isn't shy of being in anybody's face. That's just him, which is cool. Zj is just a dam nut, which has made me spit coffee through my nose several times already. You just gotta find your place amoungst the crowd is all.

Oh and PS there is no winning of an argument on this board, just in case u haven't picked up on that yet. ;)

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:33 AM
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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:34 AM
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zjgm02


Jabes0623


Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less if you call me a f*g or anything else, sticks & stones.

Of course you don't care.  You just took the time to post that paragraph for grins.




It's no big mystery.  Many of us have been here a long time and we know each other enough that there's context when we break balls.  You don't just walk up to a group of strangers in everyday life and join in on the ball-busting without being called on it.  Things are no different here.

 
LOL. Exactly.  We've seen a lot of these types around here but the good news is, they usually flame out and go away.      

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Re:NCAA considering football early signing period - Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:25 AM
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I think this thread has run it's course and we've all said our peace.
 
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