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Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:49 PM
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Michigan coach Brady Hoke announced a defensive staff shuffle on Thursday, featuring new position coaching jobs for each of his four current defensive assistants.
 
Under the new alignment, defensive coordinator Greg Mattison will coach all linebackers, Curt Mallory -- formerly the defensive backs coach -- will coach the safeties, Roy Manning -- formerly the outside linebackers coach -- will coach the cornerbacks and Mark Smith -- formerly the inside linebackers coach -- will coach the defensive line.

 
 
 
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 20, 2014 7:32 PM
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Can't hurt.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:18 PM
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I wanna hear your thoughts on Mallory coaching safeties 4life.

Our d line has no where to go but up.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:47 PM
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If it works, that's fine...but I wonder what exactly makes Smith a better DL coach than GM & Manning, a LB as a player, a better CB coach 
 
There's simply no way of knowing if/how this will work until actual game play in the fall IMO.
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:49 PM
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"We have to work harder."
-Brady "BRadio" Hoke during any post-game press conference in the last year.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:04 PM
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How can you go from coaching outside linebackers to corner backs?  Seems like completely different positions to me.


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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:18 PM
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How can you go from coaching outside linebackers to corner backs?  Seems like completely different positions to me.

 
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:22 PM
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To me this is trying to put a band-aid over a 12 inch gash. Hoke is essentially admitting we have coaching issues, he just doesn't want to fire anyone. Instead of making actual changes and bringing in proven position coaches with track records of success we are just shifting guys around and hoping for the best.

Kids love Manning on the recruiting trail but he has zero experience coaching the secondary and only one year of experience coaching on the defensive side of the ball. For a unit with horrid fundamentals and technique that is not the type of move that leaves me brimming with confidence. Yes, Mark Smith has experience coaching the D-line but he hasn't coached linemen in 15yrs and the ones he did coach were at the D1-A level. He's never produced an All-American linemen much less a high draft pick. He's never dealt with elite line prospects or had his unit go against elite O-lines. My position on Mallory is well known, he has no business coaching at Michigan. It' say two way tie between he and Funk for worst coached position group. The only area we upgraded was at LBer where GMatt takes over.

It's mindless. Instead of this shell game why not go out and actual hire quality assistant coaches? Why not hire guys who have proven that they can get the job done? Instead of going after say Larry Johnson, who has numerous All-Americans and first round defensive linemen on his resume, we move a career small school coach and now have to hope and pray he can get results. Johnson of course was scooped up by Urban Meyer so we'll have to deal with that for the forceable future. We ran off Jerry Montgomery, who is coaching to rave reviews out in Oklahoma, only to hand the entire line to a MAC level coach.

You won't hear me say one word about these coaches and the job their doing once the season begins. This is all on Hoke who had the opportunity to make real changes and actually improve the staff and program but decided to let personal relationships and loyalty get in the way.

Hoke made his bed, time to lie in it.
 
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:59 PM
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To me this is trying to put a band-aid over a 12 inch gash. Hoke is essentially admitting we have coaching issues, he just doesn't want to fire anyone. Instead of making actual changes and bringing in proven position coaches with track records of success we are just shifting guys around and hoping for the best.


Brade: Curt, maybe you oughtta just focus on the Safeties.
 
Mallory: Coach, I don't know much about Safeties.
 
Brade: They are defensive backs, but there's just a little more asked of 'em than Cornerbacks.
 
Mallory:  I don't like the sound of all that responsibility, Coach.  
 
Brade:  Well...I know ya don't, Curt, but there are only a few of them on the roster and they aren't very good anyway, so Uncle Dave and I think this is the area where we can best harness (read: hide) your coaching talents.
 
Mallory: You sure, coach?
 
Brade: I sure hope so.
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Friday, February 21, 2014 7:52 AM
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Uncle Dave......lol

Why can't we move funk to d line coach, gmatt to o line coach, Mallory as wr coach, and hellky to Cbs.


Oh yeah please don't try and cover a 12" gash with a band aid, seek emergent help, leave the bandaids to the professionals, like Hoke.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Friday, February 21, 2014 9:27 AM
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Ah yes, the foul smell of desperation found mostly in coaches who are potentially entering their last season.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Friday, February 21, 2014 10:18 AM
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With the defensive changes, Hoke had his brother, a defensive secondary coach in the NFL, come in and help Roy Manning learnabout coaching cornerbacks. Manning has never done it.

 
We're screwed

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Friday, February 21, 2014 10:24 AM
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swoosh



With the defensive changes, Hoke had his brother, a defensive secondary coach in the NFL, come in and help Roy Manning learnabout coaching cornerbacks. Manning has never done it.


We're screwed


Here's an idea, HIRE YOU'RE F**KING BROTHER WHO COACHES CORNERBACKS!!! Or someone like him who, oh I don't know, COACHES CORNERBACKS!!!!
 
If I didn't know any better I'd say Hoke is trying to get fired, he's just setting Manning up.
 
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Friday, February 21, 2014 12:19 PM
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Why do I have a bad gut feeling about this season? I sure hope were not the joke of CFB this season. Hopefully peppers can play lights out despite his piss poor coaching

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Friday, February 21, 2014 2:57 PM
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JSJ, we've been the joke of college football since September 1st, 2007.
 
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Friday, February 21, 2014 4:13 PM
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Yeah I agree I just hope not this year, but I'm not holding my breath. Its hard to even imagine us being good anymore.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Friday, February 21, 2014 4:54 PM
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zjgm02




 
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Friday, February 21, 2014 9:43 PM
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Hoke may be a bigger joke than Rodriguez.  Maybe not yet but he's definitely closing fast.  This program is such a laughingstock right now it's hard to even follow along.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 8:12 AM
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Hoke may be a bigger joke than Rodriguez.  Maybe not yet but he's definitely closing fast.  This program is such a laughingstock right now it's hard to even follow along.


I would agree if the records were even close, but they're not. We're still a laughing stock, but we're not irrelevant. During RR years we were irrelevant, both on the field and on the trail.
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 8:18 AM
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Every time I see Brady Hoke standing on the sidelines head-set-less & clapping no matter what just happened or I read about Brady making a move like this I'm always reminded of the story about the post turtle...An old rancher is talking about politics with a young man from the city. He compares a politician to a "post turtle". The young man doesn't understand and asks him what a post turtle is.
The old man says, "When you're driving down a country road and you see a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle. You know he didn't get up there by himself. He doesn't belong there; he can't get anything done while he's up there; and you just want to help the poor, dumb thing down. And all you can think is I wonder what sort of moron put the poor thing so far above its station in life."...It's time to take Brady off his post & send him & the moron who put him there packing. Good lord this is getting absurd.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:04 AM
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I wish I had an extra $11,000,000 laying around I'd outbid and change it to the "Post turtle head coach" Brady Hoke. Lol

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:27 AM
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I wish I had an extra $11,000,000 laying around I'd outbid and change it to the "Post turtle head coach" Brady Hoke. Lol

I'll be happy to make a donation for this cause!

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 4:10 PM
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JSJ, we've been the joke of college football since September 1st, 2007.

GO BLUE!

 
Wrong.
 
I laugh at a lot of you. Acting like Hoke has only been a pee-wee football coach before. So, did he just luck into that 11-2 Sugar Bowl season? Hoke has had to completely rebuild this program after RR left us a pile of burning ruble. Hoke is this bumbling buffoon that has some how how originated on message boards. Now is this year a big year for Hoke? Absolutely. Is he in danger of being fired? I doubt it. This is probably a bigger year for his assistants more than anything. If we fail to perform again, they will probably be the ones being replaced.
 
Now, if Harbaugh some how becomes available on the other hand... 
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 4:54 PM
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Edub4Blue


JSJ, we've been the joke of college football since September 1st, 2007.

GO BLUE!


Wrong.

I laugh at a lot of you. Acting like Hoke has only been a pee-wee football coach before. So, did he just luck into that 11-2 Sugar Bowl season? Hoke has had to completely rebuild this program after RR left us a pile of burning ruble. Hoke is this bumbling buffoon that has some how how originated on message boards. Now is this year a big year for Hoke? Absolutely. Is he in danger of being fired? I doubt it. This is probably a bigger year for his assistants more than anything. If we fail to perform again, they will probably be the ones being replaced.

Now, if Harbaugh some how becomes available on the other hand... 

Hoke won that Sugar Bowl with RR's players, RR's Offense, & G Mattison doing the coaching version of walking on water with the miracle he performed with that defense. Brady Hoke has absolutely no business coaching this team. Now I was no RR lover but I did think he deserved to be able to coach out the last 2 years of his contract because that team was definitely improving & about to make a huge leap IMO. RR's records 3-9, 5-7, 7-6. Hoke's records 11-2, 8-5, 7-6. Note that year 3 the records were the same. The longer Hoke has been in charge the worse we've gotten & I fully expect that trend to continue. With RR we were getting better & with Hoke we're getting worse. I hated RR's style of offense but the bottom line is if you were for firing RR after year 3 you have to be for firing Hoke after year 3 also, the on field results prove that RR was doing a better job coaching than Hoke is.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 5:07 PM
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Hoke is not ( and never will be) a premier coach, which is what a program like Michigan should have.  This job is far too big for him and he probably knows it.

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:10 PM
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Edub4Blue


JSJ, we've been the joke of college football since September 1st, 2007.

GO BLUE!


Wrong.

I laugh at a lot of you. Acting like Hoke has only been a pee-wee football coach before. So, did he just luck into that 11-2 Sugar Bowl season? Hoke has had to completely rebuild this program after RR left us a pile of burning ruble. Hoke is this bumbling buffoon that has some how how originated on message boards. Now is this year a big year for Hoke? Absolutely. Is he in danger of being fired? I doubt it. This is probably a bigger year for his assistants more than anything. If we fail to perform again, they will probably be the ones being replaced.

Now, if Harbaugh some how becomes available on the other hand... 

I agree with a lot of what you posted, the 11-2 season is the ONLY hope I have in the man. I agree too, Hoke will be here next season with another performance like this past season, granted a mass exodus of the assistants.
 
When you say "Harbaugh" do u mean Jim or John?

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:12 PM
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Edub4Blue


JSJ, we've been the joke of college football since September 1st, 2007.

GO BLUE!


Wrong.

I laugh at a lot of you. Acting like Hoke has only been a pee-wee football coach before. So, did he just luck into that 11-2 Sugar Bowl season? Hoke has had to completely rebuild this program after RR left us a pile of burning ruble. Hoke is this bumbling buffoon that has some how how originated on message boards. Now is this year a big year for Hoke? Absolutely. Is he in danger of being fired? I doubt it. This is probably a bigger year for his assistants more than anything. If we fail to perform again, they will probably be the ones being replaced.

Now, if Harbaugh some how becomes available on the other hand... 

Hoke won that Sugar Bowl with RR's players, RR's Offense, & G Mattison doing the coaching version of walking on water with the miracle he performed with that defense. Brady Hoke has absolutely no business coaching this team. Now I was no RR lover but I did think he deserved to be able to coach out the last 2 years of his contract because that team was definitely improving & about to make a huge leap IMO. RR's records 3-9, 5-7, 7-6. Hoke's records 11-2, 8-5, 7-6. Note that year 3 the records were the same. The longer Hoke has been in charge the worse we've gotten & I fully expect that trend to continue. With RR we were getting better & with Hoke we're getting worse. I hated RR's style of offense but the bottom line is if you were for firing RR after year 3 you have to be for firing Hoke after year 3 also, the on field results prove that RR was doing a better job coaching than Hoke is.

The only real concern for me is, how did we go from Gmatt coaching a "walking on water" defensive scheme, to calling a 10 yd cushion on 3rd and 3 scheme? I mean wth happened there?
 
 

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:10 PM
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Charlie Weis won 9 and 10 games respectively his first two seasons at ND. Does that make him a high quality coach?

Sometimes the stars just align in your favor. One season does not a great coach make.
 
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:55 PM
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He was almost outcoached by Luke Fickell that year, fer God's sake.........


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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:05 AM
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I wish I had an extra $11,000,000 laying around I'd outbid and change it to the "Post turtle head coach" Brady Hoke. Lol

I would change it to:
 
"In case you're wondering, we couldn't get Jim Harbaugh to be our" Head Football Coach
"We have to work harder."
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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Sunday, February 23, 2014 11:41 AM
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jsj_297


I wish I had an extra $11,000,000 laying around I'd outbid and change it to the "Post turtle head coach" Brady Hoke. Lol

I would change it to:

"In case you're wondering, we couldn't get Jim Harbaugh to be our" Head Football Coach

thats gonna run ya at least $12,000,000 there ZJ.....lol
 
How about "our coaching version of the Big New yorker pizza" head football coach....

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Re:Michigan shuffles defensive coaching staff responsibilities - Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:45 PM
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I hope Hoke isn't trying to fit a round peg in a square hole.