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Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:35 AM
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http://www.mlive.com/wolv..._coaching_staff_p.html

Sounds good coach, but I'm not exactly sure how telling a guy he needs to do a better job developing his players makes it happen. I don't know that motivation has been the issue for the coaches. A kick to the pants is great and all but you still need the ABILITY to produce.

Hoke's loyalty to his assistants will be his undoing.
 
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:52 AM
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He just fired one of his assistants.
 
 

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:01 AM
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He just fired one of his assistants.

In the opinion of some, it was a year too late.  In the opinion of even more, it was a couple months too late and cost the program any semblance of a decent year.
 
So what was your point again?
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:02 AM
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He just fired one of his assistants.


 
 
Probably should have been 2 or 3. Regardless, by the end of 2014, this whole discussion about coaches will be moot. We will either be coming off a very successful 2014 or being facing major coaching changes (possibly a complete overturn, includind HC) for the 2015 season.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:33 AM
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Hey guys, I'm new here but not new to Michigan football.
 
First, I don't think the coaching change had anything to do with Brady Hoke. Letting Borges go and bringing in Nussmeier has all the fingerprints of DB.
 
As for the staff needing to develop players better, I would think nothing has been more obvious. The team is void of leadership, both at the player level and especially the coaches. Having Jake Ryan back on the field should help the defense in this regard. The natural leader of the offense (QB) doesn't appear to have the full faith of the HC and that hurts him in the huddle.
 
I'm not an advocate for a coaching carousel but there needs to be some serious improvement in both effort and results on the field this year.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:16 AM
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He just fired one of his assistants.



 
And that's the problem.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:31 AM
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Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Hoke fires an assistant (or DB but either way he's gone), the one that needed to fired yet he should have fired 2-3. He fires 2-3 and should have fired 4-5. You don't fire a coach unless you have a better option. Nuss is a better option (we think) so he made the move.

We ask Hoke (and coaches) to take responsibility for developing the players. He takes that ownership in this article and says they will. Clearly, he can't do anymore than that right now to show you because it's February 11.

For the most part, Hoke has done what we fans (who really have no clue what's going on behind closes doors in the Fort) have asked him to do this off season.

With that said, the past 2 years has garnered this type of scrutiny so he better not be surprised when people are quick to jump and question.

The proof will be on the field this fall where Hoke is ultimately judged but I have more hope today than I did last year.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:32 AM
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He just fired one of his assistants.




And that's the problem.

Bingo
 
There were development issues across the board and coaching issues in several areas (secondary, O-line, LBers). Firing Borges fixed one coaching issue, not all of them. Firing Borges doesn't help the secondary in any way.
 
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:02 AM
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It's inconceivable to me that either line coach still has a job.  Borges was offered up as the sacrificial lamb (and rightfully so) but it almost seems like a PR move more than anything else.  Nuss can call plays but in the end, position coaches need to develop players.  If you don't know how to play your position the play-calling becomes moot.  

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:09 AM
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Hoke said his peace, acknowledged what we wanted and now it's time to put up or shut up...It's pretty simple and black and white...start winning games. Of course, we've been saying that same thing for 12 months now since last February after signing day. This was a bit more aggressive cuz it sounds like Hoke has now put some heat onto all his assistants and I'm sure DB put a bunsen burner under Hoke's seat as well...win and we're all good, piss away another season next year and it could get ugly.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:30 AM
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It might be a year or two late, but happy that Hoke realizes  the issue & spoken publicly about it...FINALLY. 
 
Frankly, it's the truth & the onus falls on ALL the coaches. Of course, talk is cheap & the proof will be in how the team performs (develops) throughout the fall.
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:50 AM
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He just fired one of his assistants.

In the opinion of some, it was a year too late.  In the opinion of even more, it was a couple months too late and cost the program any semblance of a decent year.

So what was your point again?

 
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:18 AM
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This is exactly what we talked about in a previous thread. The coaches have to develop the talent. And folks he cant fire everyone because that doesnt gurantee anything but him getting fired. He believes in the staff he has and frankly I think he should hire a DL coach and take himself out of the mix. You dont see the elite coaches coaching a position as well as the team. You want to be invloved sure. but hire a guy that can devote the necssary time to the position.
 
This is put up or shut up year for Hoke and he is quite aware of it!!

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:22 AM
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Hoke only coaches the nose guards correct?  I thought GM was the d-line coach.
 
 

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:31 AM
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Hoke only coaches the nose guards correct?  I thought GM was the d-line coach.



 
Hoke coaches the interior d-lineman, while GM coaches the DEs.
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:01 PM
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How the hell Mallory or funk still has a job is beyond me. I don't wish a coaching carousel either, but damn are they terrible!

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:05 PM
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UNeek, Nick Saban coaches the DBs at Bama. He seems pretty elite, no?

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:22 PM
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Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Hoke fires an assistant (or DB but either way he's gone), the one that needed to fired yet he should have fired 2-3. He fires 2-3 and should have fired 4-5. You don't fire a coach unless you have a better option. Nuss is a better option (we think) so he made the move.

We ask Hoke (and coaches) to take responsibility for developing the players. He takes that ownership in this article and says they will. Clearly, he can't do anymore than that right now to show you because it's February 11.

For the most part, Hoke has done what we fans (who really have no clue what's going on behind closes doors in the Fort) have asked him to do this off season.

With that said, the past 2 years has garnered this type of scrutiny so he better not be surprised when people are quick to jump and question.

The proof will be on the field this fall where Hoke is ultimately judged but I have more hope today than I did last year.

Go Blue!!

We all know where the problem areas are though. Hoke has talked about the struggles in the secondary and with the O-line. There aren't 4-5 areas that need an upgrade coaching wise so I at least can't see a place where I'd call for mass coaching changes. When you have a known, multi-year issues (which we have with the O-line and secondary) and you're solution is to call a guy into the office and tell him he needs to do a better job, that's not really fixing the issue. Unless you feel as though the issue is one of motivation anyway. Telling someone they need to do a better job doesn't actually cause it to happen.
 
I agree that you don't just make a change for the sake of change. The issue is, we had the opportunity to upgrade position coaches and didn't take advantage. Guys like Larry Johnson, Bob Bostad, and Manny Diaz are among the best in the country at their positions. We had the chance to make a play for those guys and didn't do it.
 
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:52 PM
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I love how some of you are still clinging to this thought that Hoke is too loyal to his coaches...even after he fired the one man of staff he would be the most loyal to.

Also, Hoke fired Borges. Not Brandon. Hoke hired Nuss. Not Brandon. Let it go conspiracy therorists.
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:13 PM
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I love how some of you are still clinging to this thought that Hoke is too loyal to his coaches...even after he fired the one man of staff he would be the most loyal to.

Also, Hoke fired Borges. Not Brandon. Hoke hired Nuss. Not Brandon. Let it go conspiracy therorists.

Borges would be the top guy he would be loyal to? Hecklinski and Smith have been with Hoke way longer than Borges was. Hecklinski since 2004 and Smith since 2003.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:37 PM
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I love how some of you are still clinging to this thought that Hoke is too loyal to his coaches...even after he fired the one man of staff he would be the most loyal to.

Also, Hoke fired Borges. Not Brandon. Hoke hired Nuss. Not Brandon. Let it go conspiracy therorists.

Let me ask this:
The O-line has reeked for 2 consecutive years, the secondary has reeked for 3 consecutive years yet both coaches remain. What exactly would you call that?
 
 
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:39 PM
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I love how some of you are still clinging to this thought that Hoke is too loyal to his coaches...even after he fired the one man of staff he would be the most loyal to.

Also, Hoke fired Borges. Not Brandon. Hoke hired Nuss. Not Brandon. Let it go conspiracy therorists.

Borges would be the top guy he would be loyal to? Hecklinski and Smith have been with Hoke way longer than Borges was. Hecklinski since 2004 and Smith since 2003.

 
heck coaches the WRs.  did you honestly think the WRs were one of the bigger issues of the team?  I didn't.  also, smith coaches the LBs, and while they weren't amazing, I still believe that the DL is the major reason why the LBs didn't perform at a higher level.  bolden, gedeon, and ross (although he did regress) have major upside IMO



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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:45 PM
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I love how some of you are still clinging to this thought that Hoke is too loyal to his coaches...even after he fired the one man of staff he would be the most loyal to.

Also, Hoke fired Borges. Not Brandon. Hoke hired Nuss. Not Brandon. Let it go conspiracy therorists.

Borges would be the top guy he would be loyal to? Hecklinski and Smith have been with Hoke way longer than Borges was. Hecklinski since 2004 and Smith since 2003.


heck coaches the WRs.  did you honestly think the WRs were one of the bigger issues of the team?  I didn't.  also, smith coaches the LBs, and while they weren't amazing, I still believe that the DL is the major reason why the LBs didn't perform at a higher level.  bolden, gedeon, and ross (although he did regress) have major upside IMO

I am not saying Heck has been an issue....in fact I think he is the best position coach we have. As far as LBers go, again not my biggest concern...but do not see the point of having 2 LB coaches unless the plan is to move Manning to RB coach after Jackson retires. We effectively have 4 coaches coaching the front 7...it seems a bit much especially in terms of their results.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:17 PM
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I love how some of you are still clinging to this thought that Hoke is too loyal to his coaches...even after he fired the one man of staff he would be the most loyal to.

Also, Hoke fired Borges. Not Brandon. Hoke hired Nuss. Not Brandon. Let it go conspiracy therorists.

Borges would be the top guy he would be loyal to? Hecklinski and Smith have been with Hoke way longer than Borges was. Hecklinski since 2004 and Smith since 2003.


heck coaches the WRs.  did you honestly think the WRs were one of the bigger issues of the team?  I didn't.  also, smith coaches the LBs, and while they weren't amazing, I still believe that the DL is the major reason why the LBs didn't perform at a higher level.  bolden, gedeon, and ross (although he did regress) have major upside IMO


I am not saying Heck has been an issue....in fact I think he is the best position coach we have. As far as LBers go, again not my biggest concern...but do not see the point of having 2 LB coaches unless the plan is to move Manning to RB coach after Jackson retires. We effectively have 4 coaches coaching the front 7...it seems a bit much especially in terms of their results.

 
so what was the point of bringing up the loyalty issue, if you think they're not the issues?  should hoke just fire the better position coaches just to prove that he's not loyal to some random critics?
 
BTW, i agree that it's kinda silly that we have that many D coaches



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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:30 PM
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The true loyalist "Michigan Man's" head has reappeared..

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:30 PM
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I love how some of you are still clinging to this thought that Hoke is too loyal to his coaches...even after he fired the one man of staff he would be the most loyal to.

Also, Hoke fired Borges. Not Brandon. Hoke hired Nuss. Not Brandon. Let it go conspiracy therorists.

Borges would be the top guy he would be loyal to? Hecklinski and Smith have been with Hoke way longer than Borges was. Hecklinski since 2004 and Smith since 2003.


heck coaches the WRs.  did you honestly think the WRs were one of the bigger issues of the team?  I didn't.  also, smith coaches the LBs, and while they weren't amazing, I still believe that the DL is the major reason why the LBs didn't perform at a higher level.  bolden, gedeon, and ross (although he did regress) have major upside IMO


I am not saying Heck has been an issue....in fact I think he is the best position coach we have. As far as LBers go, again not my biggest concern...but do not see the point of having 2 LB coaches unless the plan is to move Manning to RB coach after Jackson retires. We effectively have 4 coaches coaching the front 7...it seems a bit much especially in terms of their results.


so what was the point of bringing up the loyalty issue, if you think they're not the issues?  should hoke just fire the better position coaches just to prove that he's not loyal to some random critics?

BTW, i agree that it's kinda silly that we have that many D coaches

I didn't bring it up, others did. I was just countering the claim that Borges would be the coach on staff that Hoke would have been most loyal to. 

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:32 PM
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Your guys points are crossed. Your replies don't make sense to the original post jfyi. I don't think it was a fire for loyalty point being made. I think they saying we basically have 2 pos coaches that suck massively. Heck and the rest do t need to go. I dunno maybe I'm reading and interpreted wrong.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:42 PM
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How the hell Mallory or funk still has a job is beyond me. I don't wish a coaching carousel either, but damn are they terrible!

 
Agree...as HAPPY as I was to see Borges go, I was really disappointed that Funk & Mallory didn't follow him 
 
I really believe the OL & secondary better see major improvement in 2014...especially, the OL...if Funk & Mallory don't want to become the next coaching casualities!
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:04 PM
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It is not uncommon for many staffs in America to be uneven numbers wise and it is usually tilted toward what background the head coach has come from. Currently we have 5 defensive coaches (that number includes Hoke), and 5 offensive coaches. Perfect balance. Under RR we had 6 offensive and 4 defensive.  

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:44 PM
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Hoke won a bcs game with players that were developed under the previous regime. So he can win with players when they are developed. He just can't develop his own
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:34 PM
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Well I have heard that Funk is more of a zone blocking guy who was forced to run the straight ahead that Borges wanted. I have heard that Nuss is much more adaptable to what he has in front of him. So maybe we move to a more zone blocking scheme that works for Funk. We shall see. 
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:22 PM
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Well I have heard that Funk is more of a zone blocking guy who was forced to run the straight ahead that Borges wanted. I have heard that Nuss is much more adaptable to what he has in front of him. So maybe we move to a more zone blocking scheme that works for Funk. We shall see. 


Good point.....did not know that about nuss.....honestly I still don't know much about him.

Man I sure hope it helps, I really do.

The only concern I would still have is a point I believe 4life made about zone blocking which doesn't matter during our atrocious pass blocking.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:59 AM
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I've looked at the schedule for '14 & being as realistic as I can I see at best an 8-4 season. Given that this team plays down to its competition, is uninspired, poorly lead, & not at all nasty I could easily see a 6-6 season. I certainly hope I am wrong but I just don't see any realistic scenario in which Brady Hoke turns things around enough to save his bacon. His relationship with DB may buy him the '15 season but be it this year or next I believe we will be right here discussing our new AD & HC. I just wish we were having that discussion right now instead of suffering thru another miserable season or 2.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Wednesday, February 12, 2014 10:55 AM
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I've looked at the schedule for '14 & being as realistic as I can I see at best an 8-4 season. Given that this team plays down to its competition, is uninspired, poorly lead, & not at all nasty I could easily see a 6-6 season. I certainly hope I am wrong but I just don't see any realistic scenario in which Brady Hoke turns things around enough to save his bacon. His relationship with DB may buy him the '15 season but be it this year or next I believe we will be right here discussing our new AD & HC. I just wish we were having that discussion right now instead of suffering thru another miserable season or 2.


Each team has its own identity. People were saying the same thing about Hoke's first year, same talent as year before and completely different team. Every team is different and it shows at all levels of football. That's how turnarounds happen. If DG, Jake, and a few other seniors step up we could very well see a great season. And if they don't we will likely be facing the scenario you presented.

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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:43 AM
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I love how some of you are still clinging to this thought that Hoke is too loyal to his coaches...even after he fired the one man of staff he would be the most loyal to.

Also, Hoke fired Borges. Not Brandon. Hoke hired Nuss. Not Brandon. Let it go conspiracy therorists.

Let me ask this:
The O-line has reeked for 2 consecutive years, the secondary has reeked for 3 consecutive years yet both coaches remain. What exactly would you call that?


 
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Re:Brady Hoke to coaches:Player development has to be better, and quicker - Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:37 PM
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My motto for 2014 is ‘just win baby’…I don’t care how we look, who plays, what transpires to get the victory….simply put, ‘just win baby’

The whispers in Hoke’s office should say, “if you win…they will come”

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