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Get ready for this black eye- Gibbons investigation - Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:12 PM
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http://www.michigandaily....lled-sexual-misconduct
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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:26 PM
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Was a rumor going around that RR used to call this dude peckerhead....well, if he did what was alledged, that is WAAAAAAAAY more polite than what I think of him

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:30 PM
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Only took them 4 years to kick him off the team for it.  Pretty impressive.  Oh wait, I misspelled pathetic.


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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:52 PM
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This is extremely, extremely disturbing.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:14 PM
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It happened at my nephews fraternity though Gibbons was not in the frat. He told me about the accusation at Thanksgiving of that year. This does not suprise me in the least.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:46 PM
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Bad news all the way around and Gibbons isn't the only player involved in the story, though the only one accused of sexual misconduct. Taylor Lewan was formally repermanded for harassing the girl after the fact by campus police.

We discussed it back in August
http://umgoblue.com/talk/...randon+gibbons&mpage=1
 
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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Tuesday, January 28, 2014 8:40 PM
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How can this be spun to get rid of Hoke and Brandon?  Time to clean house.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Tuesday, January 28, 2014 8:44 PM
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Just what the new incoming President of the University wanted to deal with, I'm sure.

When I see this stuff, we are no better than OSU or any other program.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:03 AM
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at least osu suspended Hyde for facepalming some chick.  Gibbons got to play 4 seasons.


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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:51 AM
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I really don't understand the cover up, especially for a kicker.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:35 AM
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What is this OIE group? Freak in university SS? their burden of proof is their own opinion on case "facts" that aren't enough to warrant police charges? (Real charges) I sure he's guilty of something along with that scumbag Lewan. But this whole "private investigation" doesn't seem right to me at all.

So there's enough evidence for them to believe "it was more likely to have happened, than not" but the real cops aren't sniffing out FELONY SEX CHARGES?

These are very serious accusations, as are any sex crimes IMO.

Something smells really bad............

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:55 AM
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How can this be spun to get rid of Hoke and Brandon?  Time to clean house.

Didn't happen under their watch.  Some other douchebag was leading the program then.
 
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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:28 AM
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Since the university operates separate from the criminal justice system, one could argue that perhaps there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute, but the school felt like there was enough circumstantial evidence to wash their hands of this mess.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:02 AM
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Unfortunate circumstances, but since he was not expelled until 12/19/13 I don't see how there's a team cover-up.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:14 AM
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I'm all for presumed innocent until proven guilty and everybody deserves their day in court but you don't get booted just because.  Something happened which makes this guy a scumbag.  But in typical Michigan style, they call it "separated" from the University.  How freakin' stupid.  

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:20 AM
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Accused and never charged...very similar to the Winston deal this year. Absolutely terrible it took 4 years to come to light...but every Mich fan knew of this (and Lewan's involvement) back when it happened. I was never a Gibbons fan and always thought RichRod should have kicked him off the team.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:24 AM
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If he did do what is alleged, it makes his post-game comments about picturing a brunette all the more creepier.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:38 PM
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Brunette girls, huh? Get lost, scummer. 
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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:46 PM
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zjgm02


If he did do what is alleged, it makes his post-game comments about picturing a brunette all the more creepier.

I thought the same exact thing! I mean what if it was a direct shot at the girl, ya know? That would be sick and a true sociopathic behavior..........

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 3:15 PM
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Considering it was Hoke who said picture brunette girls because he (Hoke) thinks they are pretty I doubt very much it had anything to do with this.

This is probably very much like the Winston case and I'm sure privacy laws prevented Hoke from discussing any of it, hence the "family issues" statement. And there is no way the university tried to cover this up, they aren't going to try to protect a freshmen kicker who couldn't make a 30 yarded to save his life.
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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 3:47 PM
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What is it with our Kickers? 
 
 

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:23 PM
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The more I think about this, the more suspicious I get. Why is no major media taking this story and running with it? I can't believe, drew sharp, at least isn't going to blow this thing up.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:08 PM
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Considering it was Hoke who said picture brunette girls because he (Hoke) thinks they are pretty I doubt very much it had anything to do with this.

This is probably very much like the Winston case and I'm sure privacy laws prevented Hoke from discussing any of it, hence the "family issues" statement. And there is no way the university tried to cover this up, they aren't going to try to protect a freshmen kicker who couldn't make a 30 yarded to save his life.


Touche....

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:09 PM
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Suspicious of what exactly?
 
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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:16 PM
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The cover up, everything about it. I just don't get why it isn't getting any press..... You know at least drew sharp would be in this.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:24 PM
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Because there were no CRIMINAL charges filed. Again, the criteria to get kicked out of school is a lot less then finding proof of a crime. You know it would end up he said she said. She was drunk etc. it's unfortunate but true. That's why I am reaching my son to be respectful and not to take advantage of people

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:28 PM
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At best we know Hoke lied about why Gibbons didn't make the bowl trip. The fact that Gibbons was dismissed is running on birth Mlive and ESPN (citing the Michigan daily). It's not so crazy to believe that the "Michigan media" was scooped. They’ve been treating the athletic department with kid gloves since Hoke took over. This story was out there, the pieces were available. No one got up and ran with it, except the students at the Michigan Daily. As I said back in August, it's hard to fake police reports, it's hard to fake University memos and reports, it's hard to fake mugshots.

The fact that the University waited until both Gibbon's and Lewan's eligibility were up before taking action reeks of a coverup. Now that may not be the case but that's the scent the story gives off.
 
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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:41 PM
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The University in 2011 agreed to change their rules with regards to how they handle sexual misconduct cases...and the new rules did not take effect until August of 2013. Before the new rules came into effect, the university only investigated if the victim of said misconduct elected to move forward. 

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:22 PM
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he and winston are good friends
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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:41 PM
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should there be a statute of limitations on that?   Seems kinda ridiculous to expel a student for something that he allegedly did 4 years prior to a rule being placed in effect

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:44 PM
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Oh well.  He's gone, Lewan is gone, I'm not going to stop watching Michigan football over this.  If there was a coverup, get rid of whoever was involved and move on.  I'm tired of all this BS, I just want to watch some freaking football on Saturdays.


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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:43 PM
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Oh well.  He's gone, Lewan is gone, I'm not going to stop watching Michigan football over this.  If there was a coverup, get rid of whoever was involved and move on.  I'm tired of all this BS, I just want to watch some freaking football on Saturdays.


If you want to watch football on Saturdays you might want to pick another team...LMAO!

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:06 PM
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^^ ZING!

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:20 PM
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Drew Sharp doing any investigating would require him actually getting off his fat ass and doing some actual work, something he hasn't done for about 15 years or so.
 
It was reported on ESPN, and CBS Sports. Whether or not there's anything to follow up on, who knows. Quite literally every key player involved in this mess when the actual incident occurred is gone: Gibbons, Rodriguez, Martin, Coleman. It doesn't seem likely that anyone still at U-M is guilty (legally or otherwise) of anything. The optics of this coming out after Gibbons' eligibility was already up is horrendous, and Hoke using the exact same excuse that Dantonio used when one of his players had to go back to Florida to face felony charges is shameful, but that's probably the extent of it.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:20 PM
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http://www.mlive.com/news...ns_was_arrested_i.html
 
 
And now the truth starts to come out....Gibbons was arrested in 2009 for this incident.  Makes me like HOKE less and less.   What a shame.  I guess thats why his players like him so much.  He is loyal to a fault.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:32 PM
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It is amusing how far people will go with their distaste for Hoke. If you don't like him as a coach, fine. Some of this is getting ridiculous.

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:34 PM
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http://www.mlive.com/news...ns_was_arrested_i.html


And now the truth starts to come out....Gibbons was arrested in 2009 for this incident.  Makes me like HOKE less and less. What a shame.  I guess thats why his players like him so much.  He is loyal to a fault.


Why, Hoke wasn't the coach in 2009.

Gibbons was never charged and the girl decided not to file charges. What am I missing here?

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:14 PM
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http://www.mlive.com/news...ns_was_arrested_i.html


And now the truth starts to come out....Gibbons was arrested in 2009 for this incident.  Makes me like HOKE less and less. What a shame.  I guess thats why his players like him so much.  He is loyal to a fault.


Why, Hoke wasn't the coach in 2009.

Gibbons was never charged and the girl decided not to file charges. What am I missing here?

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He basically covered up the fact that he was kicked out.  that BS of  "i dont want to over kick him."  Anyway you cut it, the athletic department has covered up this issue. And, the buck stops and starts with the coach of the program. Its all about half truths he tells.  When Gibbons was not going to the bowl game, he could have said its an eligibility issue or academic issue like they did with Tate.  Instead, he said it was a family issue.  I wish there was more transparency.  I thought we were above this sort of shananigans

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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:27 PM
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I don't think it's too much to expect your head coach not lie about a serious situation. FERPA didn't prevent Hoke from stating that Gibbons was no longer a student athlete at Michigan. He (likely at the behest of the athletic department) lied to avoid the obvious questions and subsequent bad press that would have come with telling the truth.
 
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Re:Get ready for this black eye - Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:43 PM
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This just in. Hoke has just been linked to the Michigan murders. Lol.

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