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Rumor, per an insider... - Friday, January 10, 2014 8:28 PM
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...is that U-M is in the market for a RB coach.
 
Time to bring Wheatley home, IMO.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Friday, January 10, 2014 8:56 PM
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We've suspected that once his son was done playing that Jackson would retire. He's been a great coach and recruiter for many years.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Friday, January 10, 2014 9:35 PM
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I heard this a while back. He would be a good hire and a great recruiter in the local area.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Friday, January 10, 2014 9:43 PM
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Jackson has been a major positive for Michigan Football for many years.  If he is to retire, Wheatley sounds like the right hire.
 
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 5:54 AM
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Edited for grossness. (is that even a word?)
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:09 AM
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I'll pass on Wheatley.  

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:10 AM
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Dude that sounds gross.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:30 AM
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Dude that sounds gross.

Didnt even notice that til u said something....see what sleep deprivation does? LoL

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:42 PM
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Wheatley is the obvious choice though step down to college position usually doesn't happen voluntarily. Wheatley has a son that is a major recruit so that may be an alluring situation. I believe Wheatley interviewed for the EMU job so obviously he has goals outside of position coach.

Nussmeier may have someone in mind though. I'd prefer he worried about upgrading the O-line coaching myself.
 
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:38 PM
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Wheatley is the obvious choice though step down to college position usually doesn't happen voluntarily. Wheatley has a son that is a major recruit so that may be an alluring situation. I believe Wheatley interviewed for the EMU job so obviously he has goals outside of position coach.

Nussmeier may have someone in mind though. I'd prefer he worried about upgrading the O-line coaching myself.

As I said in another post, new oline coach is a jsj guarantee.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:26 PM
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I think coach Nuss should make that determination. You don't bring a guy in that's worked for Saban and Sarkisian, QB's like Locker, McCarron and Bulger, give him a presser, etc.. just to go hire another former Michigan player to coach here. Given the backs he's coached I hope he can hand pick Jackson's successor.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:36 PM
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sam webb saying Jackson retirement is unsubstantiated.  No more changes coming according to him.


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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:56 PM
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Wheaties would be great .  How about mike hart?
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 6:31 PM
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sam webb saying Jackson retirement is unsubstantiated.  No more changes coming according to him.

Jackson hasn't produced a meaningful back since 2007. I hope this doesn't end up like Robinson/Shafer handcuffed to the likes of Tony Gibson. OL coaching, running back coaching, etc.. is atrocious and has been for a long time.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 6:50 PM
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No one has the stones to dump Jackson, Rich Rod included. He continues to coach based on reputation and legacy. Retiring on his own terms is the only way he's not on the Michigan sideline.

A true shame.
 
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 7:13 PM
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I don't know if one guy can change a system of suckage. It's no different than Rodriguez and his defensive staff. I think both Jackson and Funk need to go. But that's just me. LB'ers coach Smith should go too.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:09 PM
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I hope this doesn't end up like Robinson/Shafer handcuffed to the likes of Tony Gibson.

Dude, ever since the board turned on Mallory, I have been tryna remember the name of the waste of space coaching the DBs during the RR years. Thanks for saving the 10th seconds on Google it would've taken to figure it out.
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:41 PM
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I hope this doesn't end up like Robinson/Shafer handcuffed to the likes of Tony Gibson.

Dude, ever since the board turned on Mallory, I have been tryna remember the name of the waste of space coaching the DBs during the RR years. Thanks for saving the 10th seconds on Google it would've taken to figure it out.

Hahaha any time my friend!

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:00 PM
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I've heard a lot of the problems with the O-line came down to Funk being a zone blocking specialist and Borges wanting to run pull blocking all the time.
 
 
Maybe with Nuss also believing in the zone block, the o-line will improve


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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:26 AM
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Mike Hart being right down Washtenaw, you have to think he's just waiting for that job to open up.  I say if Wheatley doesn't want to come, give Mike Hart a chance, he's been coaching for a few years now and wants back in at Michigan.  Hell, I'm willing to bet he'd walk there.  

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:56 AM
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hold up. . . first off, it's not even confirmed that we're gonna get a new RB coach.  secondly, wasn't everyone bi***ing about how UM should go hire the best possible coaches, not just ones with UM ties?  I'm not saying wheatley/hart shouldn't be potential candidates (if the job will be open), but why does everyone want them? based on what exactly?  if they're great at what they do, then by all means, I wouldn't mind the (potential) hire, but I haven't seen one reason listed as to why they're qualified to be on the staff
 
 



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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 12:15 PM
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Charles Huff, RB Coach from Western Michigan was a Broyles Award Nominee.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 12:54 PM
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I've heard a lot of the problems with the O-line came down to Funk being a zone blocking specialist and Borges wanting to run pull blocking all the time.

This is an interesting take and kind of what I was getting at in another thread when I asked if the reason Al's gone and Funk isn't is b/c the O-line woes are being pinned on the chubby fella.  If true, though, how the heck does such a divergence in philosophy not come out during the interview process?  And why would you eventually hire a guy who's good at doing something his boss doesn't plan to do?
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:17 PM
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Funk and Borges were there for both of Hoke's years at SDSU, and all three at Michigan. We're supposed to believe they worked together for five years with philosophies that put them at odds with each other, and never did anything to resolve it?

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:47 PM
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Here's the issue with the "differing philosophies" theory, the O-line didn't just struggle in the run game. Our pass protection was as bad or worse than our run blocking. We struggle with some of the EXACT same issues in pass protection as run blocking (both man and zone) that have zero to do with scheme. Linemen not being able to consistently identify who to block was not a scheme issue, we couldn't do it pass pro. Not being able to physically hold up at the point of attack was not a scheme issue. Consistently losing leverage to the guy across from you is not a scheme issues.

Our offensive line is horribly coached, flat out. From the fundamentals on down.
 
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:53 PM
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He probably would walk here but has he done anything as a coach to think he should deserve that role?

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:32 PM
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Wheatley is a natural at Michigan, it makes too much sense not to happen. Hiring Mike Hart would purely be an emotional move. Wheatley has paid his dues, and yes having Michigan ties is an asset in this case, especially a guy who was a star and went on to star in the NFL. Unlike a Mike Hart, Wheatley earned MULTIPLE assistant jobs based on merit, he wasn't just done a favor by Ron English based on a personal relationship (granted that's how many coaches get their start). He was the ace recruiter on the Syracuse staff and had the same recruiting region as we currently have Fred Jackson. Oh and he's now served as an NFL assistant in addition to the 2 NFL internships he participated in early in his career.

Wheatley has paid his dues and in reality is probably too good for position coach at Michigan at this point in his career. We'd be LUCKY to have him.
 
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 5:02 PM
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Mike Hart being right down Washtenaw, you have to think he's just waiting for that job to open up.  I say if Wheatley doesn't want to come, give Mike Hart a chance, he's been coaching for a few years now and wants back in at Michigan.  Hell, I'm willing to bet he'd walk there.  

I think the next coach to be hired at Michigan and offers to walk to Michigan, we should call their bluff.

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 5:13 PM
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^^ hahahahaha AMEN

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:13 PM
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Mike Hart being right down Washtenaw, you have to think he's just waiting for that job to open up.  I say if Wheatley doesn't want to come, give Mike Hart a chance, he's been coaching for a few years now and wants back in at Michigan.  Hell, I'm willing to bet he'd walk there.  

I think the next coach to be hired at Michigan and offers to walk to Michigan, we should call their bluff.

I just Google'd it.  The distance from ´╗┐Rynearson Stadium to Schembechler Hall is approximately 5.7 miles; or 9.2 kilometers for you metric folks.  Mike never had much top end speed, but he could run through traffic, so he shouldn't have any reason to break his stride, even if it's rush hour.  I'm going to assume that he can still run a good 7 minute mile, give or take, but he might get winded toward the end.  It is winter, so it's probably icy out too.  All things considered, I'll say it takes him 51 minutes, +/- 15 seconds.  What do you guys think?

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:22 PM
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Mike Hart being right down Washtenaw, you have to think he's just waiting for that job to open up.  I say if Wheatley doesn't want to come, give Mike Hart a chance, he's been coaching for a few years now and wants back in at Michigan.  Hell, I'm willing to bet he'd walk there.  

I think the next coach to be hired at Michigan and offers to walk to Michigan, we should call their bluff.

I just Google'd it.  The distance from ´╗┐Rynearson Stadium to Schembechler Hall is approximately 5.7 miles; or 9.2 kilometers for you metric folks.  Mike never had much top end speed, but he could run through traffic, so he shouldn't have any reason to break his stride, even if it's rush hour.  I'm going to assume that he can still run a good 7 minute mile, give or take, but he might get winded toward the end.  It is winter, so it's probably icy out too.  All things considered, I'll say it takes him 51 minutes, +/- 15 seconds.  What do you guys think?



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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Monday, January 13, 2014 6:12 AM
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Mike Hart being right down Washtenaw, you have to think he's just waiting for that job to open up.  I say if Wheatley doesn't want to come, give Mike Hart a chance, he's been coaching for a few years now and wants back in at Michigan.  Hell, I'm willing to bet he'd walk there.  

I think the next coach to be hired at Michigan and offers to walk to Michigan, we should call their bluff.

I just Google'd it.  The distance from ´╗┐Rynearson Stadium to Schembechler Hall is approximately 5.7 miles; or 9.2 kilometers for you metric folks.  Mike never had much top end speed, but he could run through traffic, so he shouldn't have any reason to break his stride, even if it's rush hour.  I'm going to assume that he can still run a good 7 minute mile, give or take, but he might get winded toward the end.  It is winter, so it's probably icy out too.  All things considered, I'll say it takes him 51 minutes, +/- 15 seconds.  What do you guys think?

 
I think I am 37 years old and I can run 6 miles at a 7 minute mile pace.  I never played collegiate football or pro football so if he can't run 5.7 at a 7 minute mile pace then he has other problems!  I'll give him the benefit of a doubt and place my bets at 45 minutes top.
 
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Monday, January 13, 2014 12:28 PM
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^^ that's pretty stout dude, u got any eligibility left?

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Monday, January 13, 2014 2:17 PM
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My average is 9.25 in a marathon. Now in jr high I ran the 1600 which is 1 mile at 4.26 . Times sure have changed :)
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Monday, January 13, 2014 2:29 PM
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^^ that's pretty stout dude, u got any eligibility left?

 
I wish, endurance wise I can probably run circles around football players its the sprints that kill me.  I suck at anything less that 2 miles!
 
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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Monday, January 13, 2014 7:01 PM
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^^ that's pretty stout dude, u got any eligibility left?


I wish, endurance wise I can probably run circles around football players its the sprints that kill me.  I suck at anything less that 2 miles!

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I'm the exact opposite, only scaled down.  I HATE running.  I always hated running.  I played hockey for 15 years growing up around Toledo.  We used to use those heavy freestyle roller blades in the summer for dryland training.  The only times I had to run was when I went out for baseball and football, but those experiments only lasted one year each.  I admire people that can just get up and go run 7 miles on a Saturday morning.  Especially in the military, that kind of endurance would make my life SOOO much easier. 

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Monday, January 13, 2014 8:50 PM
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Me 2...I actually loved sprints, distance, never good to me. 6'1" 250 lbs(and a f**ked back) isnn't good on my joints. Doc says I have to swim from now on, which is OK with me. I used to wayyyy back in the day run the 10 milers and even longer forced humps. Wasn't setting any records tho!!! Lol

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Re:Rumor, per an insider... - Monday, January 13, 2014 9:34 PM
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You need a guy who is good at coaching + recruiting as RB coach.  The O line is a disaster which needs a new coach and new talent, but that is also true at RB.  Mike Hart was the last Michigan RB with true NFL potential, which indicates how poor the talent has been since and for how long.  Fitz Toussaint was way overrated, and IIRC no Michigan RB strung two truly good games in a row together in 2013.