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What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:18 PM
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Is that there was no %^# around. I didn't even have enough time to finish my Top 5 Potential Candidates to Replace Al Borges article. And no Nussmeier wasn't on the list-- I was pulling for Bostad 
 
Brandon/Hoke moved decisively and moved big...
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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:21 PM
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A lot of threads going on this.  Is there one we can settle on?

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:22 PM
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Let's see. I choose this one....
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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:24 PM
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No...dammit TK, you have to click 3 different links...it's good for your circulation, and I know how you old guys have circulatory issues.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:24 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:25 PM
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Lots questions running through my mind
1) Was a qb coach being suggested to AL and he balked?
2) Was gardner expressing concern that he didnt have qb  coach?
3) Were there concerns about the qb recruits?
4) Was Alabama about to make some moves that not include nuss?
5) Did Nuss know he wouldn't get washington job?
6) Did the threat of the unknown of a new college president make Brandon realize just how important next season would be?

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:25 PM
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Perfect.  So what do you think Phil?  I like this guy.  What say you?

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:26 PM
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#14 recruiter in the country according to 24/7.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:27 PM
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Maize927


No...dammit TK, you have to click 3 different links...it's good for your circulation, and I know how you old guys have circulatory issues.

 
We also like to repeat ourselves.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:29 PM
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Now I hate to be the one Downer in this whole parade because I personally think it was a good hire. BUT coming from someone who is a Bama fan along with being a michigan fan. If you go look at Alabama forums no one is crying over him leavings word was that Saban was very disappointed in some of the play calling he had shown towards the end of the season and that was one of the reason that Lane Kiffin was getting dangled around Tuscaloosa as a "adviser"
 
Now I believe he is a great hire much better than Borges and we will win big 10 championships with him because he is good and the man knows how to use a running back and develop QB talent like no other. But Him leaving Bama might be less about the money and more about Saban squeezing him out to make room for his good friend Lane Kiffin.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:31 PM
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yeah but its an upgrade all the way around...ESPECIALLY when you consider he has excellent qb coach credentials as well.....I bitched constantly about lack of qb coach.....

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:33 PM
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Lane Kiffin is a cancer.  He has destroyed everything he's touched and you'll never convince me Saban is looking at him.  If anything, Saban is going to adjust to a new offense after seeing what he saw with Auburn and Nussmeier doesn't fit.  And neither does Kiffin.  There has been a lot of talk since Monday night that Saban is distressed in what he sees and feels he has to get on-board with the "new" offenses.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:34 PM
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Now I hate to be the one Downer in this whole parade because I personally think it was a good hire. BUT coming from someone who is a Bama fan along with being a michigan fan. If you go look at Alabama forums no one is crying over him leavings word was that Saban was very disappointed in some of the play calling he had shown towards the end of the season and that was one of the reason that Lane Kiffin was getting dangled around Tuscaloosa as a "adviser"

Now I believe he is a great hire much better than Borges and we will win big 10 championships with him because he is good and the man knows how to use a running back and develop QB talent like no other. But Him leaving Bama might be less about the money and more about Saban squeezing him out to make room for his good friend Lane Kiffin.

I am pretty sure Nussmeier has head coaching aspirations and I think stepping out of the shadow of Saban may help those aspirations. It gives Nuss the chance to prove that he isn't just because he rode Saban's coat tails....also there is the $$$$

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:38 PM
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Lane Kiffin is a cancer.  He has destroyed everything he's touched and you'll never convince me Saban is looking at him.  If anything, Saban is going to adjust to a new offense after seeing what he saw with Auburn and Nussmeier doesn't fit.  And neither does Kiffin.  There has been a lot of talk since Monday night that Saban is distressed in what he sees and feels he has to get on-board with the "new" offenses.

 
I do agree partially but Saban Didn't fly in Kiffin to come lecture his entire offensive staff/players during bowl prep because he thinks that Kiffin is horrible. Him and Kiffin go back a long way and from the reports ive read considers Kiffin one of the best Offensive minds in the game.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:46 PM
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I got 50 bucks that says we win 9/10 games next year. After this debacle of a season we just endured, I will gladly take it.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:52 PM
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Lane Kiffin is a cancer.  He has destroyed everything he's touched and you'll never convince me Saban is looking at him.  If anything, Saban is going to adjust to a new offense after seeing what he saw with Auburn and Nussmeier doesn't fit.  And neither does Kiffin.  There has been a lot of talk since Monday night that Saban is distressed in what he sees and feels he has to get on-board with the "new" offenses.


I do agree partially but Saban Didn't fly in Kiffin to come lecture his entire offensive staff/players during bowl prep because he thinks that Kiffin is horrible. Him and Kiffin go back a long way and from the reports ive read considers Kiffin one of the best Offensive minds in the game.

 
Kiffin has "met" and "talked" with a lot of teams. This happens all of the time.  There's 2 guys just talking football and then there's more to it.  Could this have played into Nussmeier leaving?  Sure.  But again, I'll believe it when I see it.  Kiffin brings the exact same thing to the table as Nussmeier, only with less success doing it.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:56 PM
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TK - I think you are right on the money. Sabin saw what Auburn did and wants to head in that direction and so Nussmier would not be his guy.

Regardless, it is a GREAT hire for Michigan. These are TWO grand slams in one day for Brady and Brandon!

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:03 PM
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In 2011, even though UW had to replace a first-round pick at quarterback (Jake Locker), Nussmeier's offense scored 57 touchdowns and 434 points, the second-highest totals in school history (behind only the Huskies' 1991 national championship team). And in his three seasons at UW, his offenses got statistically better each year.

Under Nussmeier's guidance, Bama set records for offensive touchdowns scored (68), total points (542), total offense (6,237) and passing touchdowns (31) in the 2012 season--his first with the Crimson Tide. Despite a rebuilt offensive line, Bama ranked No. 6 in the nation this season in yards per play (7.15) and were ranked third in the nation in that stat in games against ranked opponents (7.59).


Those numbers look and sound pretty good to me. Bama scored 45, 48, 52, 45, 38, 20, 49, 28, 31 points in their last 9 games. They gave up 34pts to Auburn and 45 to Oklahoma...I don't think offense was their problem.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:11 PM
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It's good to see some optimism on this board!

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:15 PM
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Wow. It finally feels "good" to be a Michigan Wolverine. Let's pray we see results on the field. Any other changes comine anyone?

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:19 PM
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I won't feel good until we actually do something.  Like the hire but this is only a portion of the problem.

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Re:What I really like... - Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:31 PM
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Re:What I really like... - Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:30 AM
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If we have all these other programs that are actually contenders (Bama, Auburn types) switching to the hybrid offenses.....shouldn't we be considering that as well?

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Re:What I really like... - Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:35 AM
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0pusX


If we have all these other programs that are actually contenders (Bama, Auburn types) switching to the hybrid offenses.....shouldn't we be considering that as well?

The problem with that is that they have the ability to go out and get 5 5 star players a year and in 2 years fully turn around a offense and the current talent to not suck while doing that.
 
We on the other hand already tried that once and it damned our program for the last 6 years...... and to be fair Auburn has always run a hybrid offense since the days of Cam Newton so they kinda got thrown into it because they had the talent to. If rich rod would have had Denard in his prime and not a complete garbage defense he might still be here.. You need a super talent to be able to pull off a flawless transition.

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Re:What I really like... - Thursday, January 09, 2014 1:29 PM
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In 2011, even though UW had to replace a first-round pick at quarterback (Jake Locker), Nussmeier's offense scored 57 touchdowns and 434 points, the second-highest totals in school history (behind only the Huskies' 1991 national championship team). And in his three seasons at UW, his offenses got statistically better each year.

Under Nussmeier's guidance, Bama set records for offensive touchdowns scored (68), total points (542), total offense (6,237) and passing touchdowns (31) in the 2012 season--his first with the Crimson Tide. Despite a rebuilt offensive line, Bama ranked No. 6 in the nation this season in yards per play (7.15) and were ranked third in the nation in that stat in games against ranked opponents (7.59).


Those numbers look and sound pretty good to me. Bama scored 45, 48, 52, 45, 38, 20, 49, 28, 31 points in their last 9 games. They gave up 34pts to Auburn and 45 to Oklahoma...I don't think offense was their problem.

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I agree with Scottsdale. Alabama was a misses FG returned for a td away from possibly playing for a 3rd straight NC. And it wasn't on the offense as to why Alabama finished the season losing 2 in a row. If Saban should be panicking about anything, it should be about the state of his defense...

 

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Re:What I really like... - Thursday, January 09, 2014 2:03 PM
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While I am glad that change is coming this guy's biggest challenge is the O-line. Even with Fat Al's questionable playcalling passing wasnt the problem. Instead of developing QB's the biggest concern IMO is O-line!!

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Re:What I really like... - Thursday, January 09, 2014 7:07 PM
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The only thing that impressed me about Al is it seemed like he really called a great game in the first half a majority of the time. I think he always drew up somewhat of a great gameplan at times, but it would only be for a half. 
 
I thought outside of the HB pass in the redzone (although Smith never should of thrown the ball) @ND in 2012, he drew up a great first half gameplan. If it wasn't for 4 INT's (that's on Denard), we could've been up 28 pts. His first half gameplan with a new starting QB and without the starting RB @OSU in 2012 was phenominal. However, he completely switched gears in the 2nd half. 
 
His play calling against ND was great this year. Also something that went unnoticed. He called a good first half against UConn. I'll pin this one on Gardner. And I'll rarely do that because of the terrible Oline, but Gardner missed a few reads in this game. We baited them and set UConn up for a couple sucker plays and Gardner missed a couple wide open receivers for touchdowns instead to pass for a dump off pass. He was a mess that game. 
 
Al also called a good first half against MSU this year. He came out throwing the ball. He needed too. Then their D kicked our ass and the rest was history. 
 
Now I'll agree he did suck more than he was good, but I'll give him credit that he usually came out firing in rivalry games. I hope Nuss isn't conservative going into rivalry games. 

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Re:What I really like... - Thursday, January 09, 2014 7:43 PM
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Did anyone hear of our future recruits have anything to say about this hiring?

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Re:What I really like... - Thursday, January 09, 2014 7:48 PM
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Slater Maize n Blue


Did anyone hear of our future recruits have anything to say about this hiring?

Here is what some of the players we are offering had to say about the fire and hire
http://mgoblog.com/content/borges-out-nussmeier-recruits-react

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Re:What I really like... - Friday, January 10, 2014 7:51 AM
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MattyGoBlue!

And it wasn't on the offense as to why Alabama finished the season losing 2 in a row.

Against Auburn, no, not on the offense, but the Alabama offense did turn it over 5 times in the Sugar Bowl.  Pretty tough to turn the ball over that many times against a top-10 team and win the game.
 
 
WarrenWolverine


The only thing that impressed me about Al is it seemed like he really called a great game in the first half a majority of the time. I think he always drew up somewhat of a great gameplan at times, but it would only be for a half. 

I thought outside of the HB pass in the redzone (although Smith never should of thrown the ball) @ND in 2012, he drew up a great first half gameplan. If it wasn't for 4 INT's (that's on Denard), we could've been up 28 pts. His first half gameplan with a new starting QB and without the starting RB @OSU in 2012 was phenominal. However, he completely switched gears in the 2nd half. 

His play calling against ND was great this year. Also something that went unnoticed. He called a good first half against UConn. I'll pin this one on Gardner. And I'll rarely do that because of the terrible Oline, but Gardner missed a few reads in this game. We baited them and set UConn up for a couple sucker plays and Gardner missed a couple wide open receivers for touchdowns instead to pass for a dump off pass. He was a mess that game. 

Al also called a good first half against MSU this year. He came out throwing the ball. He needed too. Then their D kicked our ass and the rest was history. 

Now I'll agree he did suck more than he was good, but I'll give him credit that he usually came out firing in rivalry games. I hope Nuss isn't conservative going into rivalry games. 

Much of that is debatable.  What isn't really debatable is the paucity of development--and regression in the case of UM's QBs--from pretty much everyone on the offensive side of the ball during Al's tenure, which is on Al and his assistants.  Good gameplanning 50% of the time and no development of players is not worth $800k/year.
 
It's telling that it took this long to fire him and he still hasn't found another job.  They probably called around to see if any program needed 350 lbs. of marbled meat who thinks he was god's gift to the forward pass in order to make his exit more subtle, but AFAIK he's still unemployed.  Odd if he's the offensive genius he believes himself to be.
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Re:What I really like... - Friday, January 10, 2014 1:18 PM
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^^^ LMAO LMAO!!! 350LBS of marbled meat??? Hahahaa almost spit drink threw my nose when I read that.

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Re:What I really like... - Friday, January 10, 2014 1:19 PM
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U know he probably thinks he is a Greek god for all the lucky women too........a real ladies man.