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Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:41 AM
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Morris performed well in his first start, but Michigan continued its road struggles. The defense let this game get away early and too many dropped passes prevented any chance of a comeback.
 
Kansas State is not a great team; this isn’t a case where Michigan came up short in the final minutes (Ohio State, Nebraska, Penn State) or was blown out by one of the top teams in the country (Michigan State). While Morris graded out well, that's just a small consolation since Michigan lost 31-14.

 
 
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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:55 AM
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Completely disagree with the grade. C in accuracy and a B in pocket presence?  He threw the ball to the correct shoulder of the receiver and threw it with zip almost every time and he looked like a 5th year senior in the pocket.  No happy feet, no panic, and the biggest thing of all: he went through his progressions and didn't lock onto receivers.  We haven't had a QB who can do that since 2006!  Throw in the fact it was his first start, in a bowl game, in front of millions of people?  Kid gets a solid A.

 

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 12:16 PM
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I saw several overthrows.  Also, you have to know how to scale back some on the rocket ball.  There were several drops, but it's hard to catch a 200 mph fast ball.
 
 
He had some nice throws, but I'm not ready to turn the keys over to him next year.  It's still Gardners show, IMO.


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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 12:29 PM
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B- or C+. He was given a lot of easy throws, and made a few difficult throws some QBs can't make if they don't have the arm strength that SM has...but he also needs to know how to throw with some touch. Seen nothing that leads me to believe that DG's job is in jeopardy.

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 12:34 PM
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Please.  We haven't had anybody who can actually THROW a football in 8 years.  I mean THROW, you know, that part of playing QB that's really important?  Gardner is brutal and you guys are worrying about "throwing with touch"?  Seriously?  Our pu$$y receivers need to catch the ball.  Period.

 

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 12:40 PM
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I give him a solid B. Nice to see a QB throw the ball to a shoulder he actually wanted to throw it at. Stepping up in the pocket, ignoring the rush. Looked good imo.
 
If he beats out DG somehow in Spring ball, than so be it. If not, 2015 will be his for sure.

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:33 PM
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B- or C+. He was given a lot of easy throws, and made a few difficult throws some QBs can't make if they don't have the arm strength that SM has...but he also needs to know how to throw with some touch. Seen nothing that leads me to believe that DG's job is in jeopardy.

 
I agree with your rating but completely disagree that DG's job is not in jeopardy.  You ready for another replay next season if Devin is playing quarterback?  Start Morris and move Devin back to WR.  He can catch Morris' junk just like Braylon did for Henne.
 
 

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:12 PM
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I thought he looked good in person. It's was hard to tell for me but when I was paying attention in the first half, he looked poised and calm. More poised than DG even.

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:18 PM
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Completely disagree with the grade. C in accuracy and a B in pocket presence?  He threw the ball to the correct shoulder of the receiver and threw it with zip almost every time and he looked like a 5th year senior in the pocket.  No happy feet, no panic, and the biggest thing of all: he went through his progressions and didn't lock onto receivers.  We haven't had a QB who can do that since 2006!  Throw in the fact it was his first start, in a bowl game, in front of millions of people?  Kid gets a solid A.

Completely agree TK. A lot of the play calling was pathetic. You can't make plays when they aren't there to be made. I was pleasantly surprised with Morris last night.

 

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:19 PM
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I thought he looked good in person. It's was hard to tell for me but when I was paying attention in the first half, he looked poised and calm. More poised than DG even.

Well, its hard to pay attention when your wearing a young K state fans thighs as ear muffs, ya know?
 
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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:30 PM
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all I can do anymore is laugh at people who think DG should move back to WR.  That's so far out of the realm of possibilities it's hilarious.
 
 
Kind of like people who are still asking if Morris burned his redshirt yet.


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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:35 PM
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Every QB over throws some balls. I just watch Tom Brady throw one, bid deal. His deep ball to gallon would have been caught without the hold. Point is Shane is the type of QB for Borges type system. DG is the QB for next year, it's nice to know we have Shane as a backup.

The struggles this team had the first few games were on Gardner, Gardner threw a pick six on a screen pass that was covered, Shane threw the ball in the dirt last night.

Shane is a better QB in the pocket for sure. He does not hold onto the ball.

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:51 PM
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Completely disagree with the grade. C in accuracy and a B in pocket presence?  He threw the ball to the correct shoulder of the receiver and threw it with zip almost every time and he looked like a 5th year senior in the pocket.  No happy feet, no panic, and the biggest thing of all: he went through his progressions and didn't lock onto receivers.  We haven't had a QB who can do that since 2006!  Throw in the fact it was his first start, in a bowl game, in front of millions of people?  Kid gets a solid A.


Spot on. We had a lot of problems on Saturday but Morris wasn't one of them. He showed poise in the pocket, an ability to make reads and check down through route progressions and has a CANNON for an arm. Dude had no running game and the defense fell apart, but Morris played well enough to put Michigan in position to win the game.

Also, Morris is smooth with the most fundamental parts of being a QB, like simply handing the ball off to the RB. Morris gets the ball to the RB much quicker and the running game is faster, not something stats can show. He wasn't perfect, but he showed a natural ability to play with poise and make things happen. His read progressions were impressive and just the natural feel he seemed to have for the offense and for the game in general. I don't know if Michigan (or us fans) could've asked for more from Morris given the situation.

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Monday, December 30, 2013 5:26 AM
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Yup, Morris was the ring leader of this sh*tshow. Too bad well never know how competitive he coukdve made us, since he played for a team with ZERO defense.

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Monday, December 30, 2013 8:17 AM
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Completely disagree with the grade. C in accuracy and a B in pocket presence?  He threw the ball to the correct shoulder of the receiver and threw it with zip almost every time and he looked like a 5th year senior in the pocket.  No happy feet, no panic, and the biggest thing of all: he went through his progressions and didn't lock onto receivers.  We haven't had a QB who can do that since 2006!  Throw in the fact it was his first start, in a bowl game, in front of millions of people?  Kid gets a solid A.


Spot on. We had a lot of problems on Saturday but Morris wasn't one of them. He showed poise in the pocket, an ability to make reads and check down through route progressions and has a CANNON for an arm. Dude had no running game and the defense fell apart, but Morris played well enough to put Michigan in position to win the game.

Also, Morris is smooth with the most fundamental parts of being a QB, like simply handing the ball off to the RB. Morris gets the ball to the RB much quicker and the running game is faster, not something stats can show. He wasn't perfect, but he showed a natural ability to play with poise and make things happen. His read progressions were impressive and just the natural feel he seemed to have for the offense and for the game in general. I don't know if Michigan (or us fans) could've asked for more from Morris given the situation.

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I wouldnt give him an A but he was very good in his first true start. The no running game factor is def one of concern and yes he def needs touch on the ball. A cannon dones mean s%^t if the WR's cant catch it because its too hot. With that said I feel comfortable that if DG goes down next year he can step in and not miss a beat. I would give him a B+ overall. Which in his first start is more than you can ask for!!!

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Monday, December 30, 2013 8:56 AM
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I feel comfortable that if DG goes down next year he can step in and not miss a beat. Which in his first start is more than you can ask for!!!


Exactly. This is what's important that came out of the game. The backup QB is always the most popular player on the team, but his turn to run the show will have to wait until 2015.

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Monday, December 30, 2013 10:36 AM
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I just chuckle at the comments like "he just made a bunch of easy throws."  Which just happen to be the same throws that neither DRob or Gardner made/make on a consistent basis.  Watching those two attempt to throw even a simple screen was an adventure as the ball was always behind the receiver or would come inches from becoming a pick 6.  Morris hit guys in stride, which is the first biggest key to those plays actually working.  As far as his touch is concerned, yeah, when all you have is a hammer everything starts looking like a nail.  I get it.  And he'll be fine. It was his first game and things are moving too fast at times so throwing BB's is too be expected.  I'm just glad we have a guy that CAN throw BB's.  Still doesn't completely absolve our receivers from catching the football.  I don't care how hard it's thrown-when it hits your hands you'd better catch it.  That just happens to be your #1 JOB.
 
At the end of the day, Gardner is our starting QB next year. One game does not a career make where Morris is concerned and obviously we need to see more but so far, I like what I see.

 

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Monday, December 30, 2013 10:37 AM
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Morris looked very good for a freshman making his first start. Grade solid B...Not that any of this matters because we have no O-line, D-line, competent coaches, effort, drive, guts, or football IQ & as long as Hoke is in charge we're destined for mediocrity at best. Look out 6-6 & another sh*t bowl game here we come!!!!!

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Monday, December 30, 2013 1:45 PM
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Please.  We haven't had anybody who can actually THROW a football in 8 years.  I mean THROW, you know, that part of playing QB that's really important?  Gardner is brutal and you guys are worrying about "throwing with touch"?  Seriously?  Our pu$$y receivers need to catch the ball.  Period.

 
Post of the week!  I thought, considering the circumstances, Shane was outstanding.  Isn't it great to have someone who can actually throw the ball like a real QB?
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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:12 AM
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I just chuckle at the comments like "he just made a bunch of easy throws."  Which just happen to be the same throws that neither DRob or Gardner made/make on a consistent basis.  Watching those two attempt to throw even a simple screen was an adventure as the ball was always behind the receiver or would come inches from becoming a pick 6.  Morris hit guys in stride, which is the first biggest key to those plays actually working.  As far as his touch is concerned, yeah, when all you have is a hammer everything starts looking like a nail.  I get it.  And he'll be fine. It was his first game and things are moving too fast at times so throwing BB's is too be expected.  I'm just glad we have a guy that CAN throw BB's.  Still doesn't completely absolve our receivers from catching the football.  I don't care how hard it's thrown-when it hits your hands you'd better catch it.  That just happens to be your #1 JOB.

At the end of the day, Gardner is our starting QB next year. One game does not a career make where Morris is concerned and obviously we need to see more but so far, I like what I see.

No one is saying he didnt look good or made throws better than DG and DRob they all have their flaws. But no I dont expect a WR to catch a ball thrown with sheer velocity when touch is needed. let me stand 5-10 yards away a throw a ball as hard as I can at you some you will catch and some you will not. A QB is not just supposed to throw hard in case you werent aware Does Tom Brady throw every ball as hard as he can?

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:37 AM
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I just chuckle at the comments like "he just made a bunch of easy throws."  Which just happen to be the same throws that neither DRob or Gardner made/make on a consistent basis.  Watching those two attempt to throw even a simple screen was an adventure as the ball was always behind the receiver or would come inches from becoming a pick 6.  Morris hit guys in stride, which is the first biggest key to those plays actually working.  As far as his touch is concerned, yeah, when all you have is a hammer everything starts looking like a nail.  I get it.  And he'll be fine. It was his first game and things are moving too fast at times so throwing BB's is too be expected.  I'm just glad we have a guy that CAN throw BB's.  Still doesn't completely absolve our receivers from catching the football.  I don't care how hard it's thrown-when it hits your hands you'd better catch it.  That just happens to be your #1 JOB.

At the end of the day, Gardner is our starting QB next year. One game does not a career make where Morris is concerned and obviously we need to see more but so far, I like what I see.

No one is saying he didnt look good or made throws better than DG and DRob they all have their flaws. But no I dont expect a WR to catch a ball thrown with sheer velocity when touch is needed. let me stand 5-10 yards away a throw a ball as hard as I can at you some you will catch and some you will not. A QB is not just supposed to throw hard in case you werent aware Does Tom Brady throw every ball as hard as he can?

 
Good Lord.  He threw 2 rockets that were tough catches.  The 7 yard slant in the end zone to Gallon (that's not a throw you want to put air under, otherwise it's going the other way) and a 10 yard bullet to Funchess that should be caught.  (Sorry, Funchess doesn't exactly have great hands.)  Other than these he threw the screens properly and he he threw a perfect ball down the sideline to Gallon that would have been a TD if he wasn't interfered with.  This "he doesn't have touch" stuff is retarded.  It was one game.  Touch is just experience and that's all.  But you can't teach a strong arm so I'll take that all day long.  

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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:03 PM
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I just chuckle at the comments like "he just made a bunch of easy throws."  Which just happen to be the same throws that neither DRob or Gardner made/make on a consistent basis.  Watching those two attempt to throw even a simple screen was an adventure as the ball was always behind the receiver or would come inches from becoming a pick 6.  Morris hit guys in stride, which is the first biggest key to those plays actually working.  As far as his touch is concerned, yeah, when all you have is a hammer everything starts looking like a nail.  I get it.  And he'll be fine. It was his first game and things are moving too fast at times so throwing BB's is too be expected.  I'm just glad we have a guy that CAN throw BB's.  Still doesn't completely absolve our receivers from catching the football.  I don't care how hard it's thrown-when it hits your hands you'd better catch it.  That just happens to be your #1 JOB.

At the end of the day, Gardner is our starting QB next year. One game does not a career make where Morris is concerned and obviously we need to see more but so far, I like what I see.

No one is saying he didnt look good or made throws better than DG and DRob they all have their flaws. But no I dont expect a WR to catch a ball thrown with sheer velocity when touch is needed. let me stand 5-10 yards away a throw a ball as hard as I can at you some you will catch and some you will not. A QB is not just supposed to throw hard in case you werent aware Does Tom Brady throw every ball as hard as he can?


Good Lord.  He threw 2 rockets that were tough catches.  The 7 yard slant in the end zone to Gallon (that's not a throw you want to put air under, otherwise it's going the other way) and a 10 yard bullet to Funchess that should be caught.  (Sorry, Funchess doesn't exactly have great hands.)  Other than these he threw the screens properly and he he threw a perfect ball down the sideline to Gallon that would have been a TD if he wasn't interfered with.  This "he doesn't have touch" stuff is retarded.  It was one game.  Touch is just experience and that's all.  But you can't teach a strong arm so I'll take that all day long.  

 
True you cant teach a strong arm agreed. And it def helps although I would take some one who can make various throws than just a strong arm. Your right that stuff comes with exp however at this level you should be able to make most throws with the exception of a few maybe far hash to opposite sideline and deep ball (maybe).
 
Morris can make all the throws in due time so hopefully he will be able to work on it over the next year. I am sure he will get tons of reps in the spring game.
 
Funchess no hands really? Thats a first for me. He caught a lot of passes this year to have bad hands



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Re:Grading Quarterback Shane Morris Versus Kansas State - Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:36 PM
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I just chuckle at the comments like "he just made a bunch of easy throws."  Which just happen to be the same throws that neither DRob or Gardner made/make on a consistent basis.  Watching those two attempt to throw even a simple screen was an adventure as the ball was always behind the receiver or would come inches from becoming a pick 6.  Morris hit guys in stride, which is the first biggest key to those plays actually working.  As far as his touch is concerned, yeah, when all you have is a hammer everything starts looking like a nail.  I get it.  And he'll be fine. It was his first game and things are moving too fast at times so throwing BB's is too be expected.  I'm just glad we have a guy that CAN throw BB's.  Still doesn't completely absolve our receivers from catching the football.  I don't care how hard it's thrown-when it hits your hands you'd better catch it.  That just happens to be your #1 JOB.

At the end of the day, Gardner is our starting QB next year. One game does not a career make where Morris is concerned and obviously we need to see more but so far, I like what I see.

No one is saying he didnt look good or made throws better than DG and DRob they all have their flaws. But no I dont expect a WR to catch a ball thrown with sheer velocity when touch is needed. let me stand 5-10 yards away a throw a ball as hard as I can at you some you will catch and some you will not. A QB is not just supposed to throw hard in case you werent aware Does Tom Brady throw every ball as hard as he can?


Good Lord.  He threw 2 rockets that were tough catches.  The 7 yard slant in the end zone to Gallon (that's not a throw you want to put air under, otherwise it's going the other way) and a 10 yard bullet to Funchess that should be caught.  (Sorry, Funchess doesn't exactly have great hands.)  Other than these he threw the screens properly and he he threw a perfect ball down the sideline to Gallon that would have been a TD if he wasn't interfered with.  This "he doesn't have touch" stuff is retarded.  It was one game.  Touch is just experience and that's all.  But you can't teach a strong arm so I'll take that all day long.  


True you cant teach a strong arm agreed. And it def helps although I would take some one who can make various throws than just a strong arm. Your right that stuff comes with exp however at this level you should be able to make most throws with the exception of a few maybe far hash to opposite sideline and deep ball (maybe).

Morris can make all the throws in due time so hopefully he will be able to work on it over the next year. I am sure he will get tons of reps in the spring game.

Funchess no hands really? Thats a first for me. He caught a lot of passes this year to have bad hands

 
He did catch a lot of passes.  And he could have caught a lot more.  He had multiple drops in multiple games (the 3 against Iowa were brutal) and was far from reliable.  With that being said, the dude is a physical freak and he's young so the sky is the limit for him.  But as of today, he's inconsistent with his catching ability and it showed in virtually every game this year.