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Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:23 AM
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Can Borges make the adjustments to help Gardner thrive?
 
Hoke will need to sit down with his offensive coordinator and figure out how an offense that looked so good against Ohio State had completely failed versus Michigan State.
 
That conversation may not only hold the key to Devin Gardner bouncing back next season, but also determine Brady Hoke’s success as well.

 
 
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1873730-michigan-football-gardner-bruised-by-disappointing-season
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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:14 PM
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Hint - Michigan State has the #1 Pass Defense, as well as the #1 Run Defense in the B1G.  tOSU has the #11 Pass Defense. 
See you in another life, brother.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:42 PM
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I love Gardner.  The kid has a ton of heart and has a lot of potential.
 
However, our coaching staff is ruining him.  Much like they good a great athlete like Denard and were unable to use him, Hoke seems unwilling to play to Gardner's strengths. 
 
Can Gardner be great and lead us to the Big10 championship?  Absolutely.  Will Hoke put him in a position to succeed?  Not a chance.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:51 PM
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Gardner is a warrior. Love the guy.
 
Does he make the right decision all of the time? Nope. Hold on to the ball too long and take too many sacks? Yep. But dear God, look at the heinous offensive line play and total lack of a running game. Not to mention he wasn't getting much help with the play calling in most of the games. Any QB back there this year would have had issues.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 3:13 PM
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Shouldn't all the players, coaches, and fans be "bruised" by the disappointing season?
Good luck RR! Go Hoke! Go Blue!

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 3:35 PM
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Gardner is a fighter. I can't imagine what he goes through during a game. Without him, this team would probably be 3-9, at best.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:52 PM
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Gardner is a true warrior, who has TURF TOE.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:16 PM
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While he made some flat out dumb bad passes at times. He's was always a leader. Hope he comes back better for it next season.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:04 PM
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Let's not have short term memory. I have said many times how much I like the kid but for most of the season he did not pass the eye test as being a good QB. His was indecisive, held the ball and literally couldn't read a defense. Part of that is our OC but a lot it it falls on his shoulders. He needs to be a lot more consistent(duh) and should be pushed by Morris in the spring. Play the best players next year. Loyalty is for short term coaches.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:39 PM
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^^^nahhh, he just needs another year under our genius qb coach.........

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 8:45 AM
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Let's not have short term memory. I have said many times how much I like the kid but for most of the season he did not pass the eye test as being a good QB. His was indecisive, held the ball and literally couldn't read a defense. Part of that is our OC but a lot it it falls on his shoulders. He needs to be a lot more consistent(duh) and should be pushed by Morris in the spring. Play the best players next year. Loyalty is for short term coaches.

 
Except at Michigan.  Loyalty gets you a free 10 year pass.

 

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 10:34 AM
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The offensive line did him no favors. There was blame all the way around. But, lets hope the kids grow up by next season.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 11:34 AM
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Good luck with that, Narduzzi is in Al's head. Literally 3 moves ahead.
 
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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 2:23 PM
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For all his highs and lows this year...there has to be an upside, right?

He owns the 2 best single-game passing performances by a mich QB in the school's 134 yr history.

He also just had the 2nd best-single season passing numbers in program history with 3,000 yds (60% completion) and 21TD's (only 4 off Mich's single season record of 25 by both Grbac and Henne). He threw a ton of picks early in the season, but only 1 INT in the last 6 games.

He did all this with absolutely NO offensive line while being sacked 34 times (for reference, Mich only gave up 36 sacks the previous 2 years combined).

And lastly, the kid could have easily packed it in, but he continuously fought, and fought hard, playing injured and showing he's a tough kid that can be a leader on this team moving forward.

Go Blue!!

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 4:52 PM
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I figure I am in the minority here and maybe its the Maize and Blue sunglasses here but I have a feeling Devin is poised for a phenomenal run next year.  Or at least I hope…..
 
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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 6:29 PM
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Awesome Scottsdale, those truly are decent #'s. What was his total on INT's? Like 12 or so? I hate seeing these fair weather fans dismantle this kid. Obviously he had some growing pains, and his own struggles. But he worked, and worked to fix them. The fans that said throw Morris in late in the season are the ones that know nothing about the details of the team than what they see on Saturday. The upcomkng bowl game will tell us a bit, but I believe next year, with a more experienced O-line we will see a more polished and consistent DG.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 6:33 PM
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I hate the whole "wait until next year" slogan, but for once, I'm actually excited about next year.


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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 6:44 PM
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WolvyMike


I hate the whole "wait until next year" slogan, but for once, I'm actually excited about next year.

I am not so excited about losing our 2 tackles next year. Mixed with our already horrendous interior O linemen, DG might get sacked 40+ times.......

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 8:00 PM
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Let's not have short term memory. I have said many times how much I like the kid but for most of the season he did not pass the eye test as being a good QB. His was indecisive, held the ball and literally couldn't read a defense. Part of that is our OC but a lot it it falls on his shoulders. He needs to be a lot more consistent(duh) and should be pushed by Morris in the spring. Play the best players next year. Loyalty is for short term coaches.


Except at Michigan.  Loyalty gets you a free 10 year pass.

You need to read between the lines.  Loyalty to players is for short-term coaches.  Loyalty to inept assistants gets you a 10-year pass.
 


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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 8:07 PM
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Awesome Scottsdale, those truly are decent #'s. What was his total on INT's? Like 12 or so? I hate seeing these fair weather fans dismantle this kid. Obviously he had some growing pains, and his own struggles. But he worked, and worked to fix them. The fans that said throw Morris in late in the season are the ones that know nothing about the details of the team than what they see on Saturday. The upcomkng bowl game will tell us a bit, but I believe next year, with a more experienced O-line we will see a more polished and consistent DG.


Ironically, we lost 5 of our last 6 games when DG threw only 1 INT...how the hell does that happen? He threw 10 in our first 6 games....it didn't necessarily produce W's...and I think part of the reason he only threw 1 pick in the final 6 games was because of how much Big Al simplified the offense. And there were also about 5 drops by NW DB's and LB's. Haha

Strengths – throws an accurate deep ball more often than not, when healthy incredibly elusive and can be difficult to defend, when feet are set and he has time there aren’t many throws he can’t make, and he’s tough as nails.

Weaknesses – starring down his primary targets far too often, doesn’t always read coverages properly and hangs onto the ball too long in the pocket.

He has all the physically tools to be a very good college QB, but can Borges develop him? Can he get some help from his OL? Help from the run game?

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 8:31 PM
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I just want open competition in spring practice. Whoever wins the job is fine. Just don't anyone anointed.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Friday, December 06, 2013 9:25 PM
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I just want open competition in spring practice. Whoever wins the job is fine. Just don't anyone anointed.


At RT and LT and Safety there will be open competition...absolutely. At QB, not a chance. Gardner is our QB for 2014.

Lets be honest, a 5th year player, returning starting QB is not going to be on the sidelines to open the season against Appt St.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 1:47 AM
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My early prediction, App st hangs with us through 3 qtrs, due to our lack of O line experience and them dialing up blitz after blitz. And why not, they have NOTHING to lose.......Unlike ourselves.
 
This game ends on yet another coin flip type victory, somewhat like Uconn 2013.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 5:05 AM
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Not going to happen. Since Gerry Moore has been gone, Appy St. has struggled.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:35 AM
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If we have an open competition next year at QB it means we don't have a QB.  Gardner is the QB, Morris is on the bench where he belongs.

 

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 11:11 AM
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Not going to happen. Since Gerry Moore has been gone, Appy St. has struggled.

Ho hum. 
 
And Passqualoni was fired a week later.  When will people learn to stop assuming they have an idea what team will show up game to game? 
 
That Huskies team was terrible and if not for some huge breaks UM's collapse starts happening weeks earlier than it eventually did.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 1:18 PM
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If you are expecting Appy St. to give us a game next year, you have truly lost your mind or have a severe paranoia problem. The game in 07 was a once in a lifetime loss. They will not physically be able to line up against us and last I checked Armani Edwards is not un Boone anymore. Secondly, if Shane Morris is the best quarterback come the end of August next year he should be starting regardless of age.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:06 PM
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If you are expecting Appy St. to give us a game next year, you have truly lost your mind or have a severe paranoia problem. The game in 07 was a once in a lifetime loss. They will not physically be able to line up against us and last I checked Armani Edwards is not un Boone anymore.

You didn't watch the Akron game either then, huh?  It doesn't have anything to do with AppySt, it has to do with UM being a team which did only one thing consistently all year--underperform.
 
Not sure what team you watched this year--or if you even watched at all--but you're running on blind faith if you think a team that took several weeks off this season and will be losing its two best players on the OL for next is a sure bet in any game in 2014.
 
 

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:15 PM
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M$U went 7-6 last season were in the same boat. Five of their six losses came by a combined 12 points (5 of ours came by a combined 11pts). At the same time, four of their wins were by 4pts or less. Dantonio talked about "inches" after the season ended. Finding all the missing inches that make up the difference between winning and losing. M$U eventually turned close losses into close wins, and close wins into convincing victories. It took the next step and have locked up a trip to the Rose Bowl.

We need to do the same. This team isn't that far off.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:25 PM
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M$U went 7-6 last season were in the same boat. Five of their six losses came by a combined 12 points (5 of ours came by a combined 11pts).
Go Blue!!

I think you mean 4 of UM's losses came by a combined 11 points b/c MooU blew the doors off this team in November IIRC.
 
They haven't scored a TD against MooU since Gaddafi was still running things in Libya.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:30 PM
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zjgm02


ScottsdaleBlue


M$U went 7-6 last season were in the same boat. Five of their six losses came by a combined 12 points (5 of ours came by a combined 11pts).
Go Blue!!

I think you mean 4 of UM's losses came by a combined 11 points b/c MooU blew the doors off this team in November IIRC.

They haven't scored a TD against MooU since Gaddafi was still running things in Libya.


Correct, my bad.

The premise stays the same though...

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:41 PM
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Correct, my bad.

The premise stays the same though...

Go Blue!!

Very well, but so does mine.  Many of the inconsistent players and coaches will be back, and next year's schedule is much tougher than 2013.
 
You can play 'what if' forever.  This team was lucky to beat Akron, UConn and NW.  How do ya think 4-8 woulda looked?
 
Or they could've done something on offense against Nebraska and Iowa, converted the 2-point conversion against tOSU, and not thrown Gibbons to the wolves repeatedly in Happy Valley and finished 11-1.
 
It's best just to say that are what their record is, hope they get better next year, but prime yourself for them being about the same or worse.  That is how they are trending anyway and, again, next year's road schedule's a bear and we know how this team plays on the road.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 3:03 PM
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Correct, my bad.

The premise stays the same though...

Go Blue!!

Very well, but so does mine.  Many of the inconsistent players and coaches will be back, and next year's schedule is much tougher than 2013.

You can play 'what if' forever.  This team was lucky to beat Akron, UConn and NW.  How do ya think 4-8 woulda looked?

Or they could've done something on offense against Nebraska and Iowa, converted the 2-point conversion against tOSU, and not thrown Gibbons to the wolves repeatedly in Happy Valley and finished 11-1.

It's best just to say that are what their record is, hope they get better next year, but prime yourself for them being about the same or worse.  That is how they are trending anyway and, again, next year's road schedule's a bear and we know how this team plays on the road.


Exactly...you are what your record says you are and that's why we are 7-5. We need to be smarter than to allow a last-minute desperation TD drive against P$U and Gardner needs to be smart enough not to turn the ball over as much.

Our OL needs to get stronger and more aggressive so we can actually get positive rushing yards against Nebraska (they're not on get 2014 schedule but you get my point) and the defense needs to be tough enough to get a stop on 4th and short with the game on the line in the fourth quarter.

The offense needs to be mature enough to play with a 21-7 lead at Iowa, and the defense needs to be mentally strong enough to make sure a 2 TD advantage doesn't turn into a 3pt loss. Instead of chucking a pick 6, Gardner needs to throw the ball away or just take the sack. Instead of allowing a jailbreak blitz on 3rd and short, the OL needs to be mature enough to read what's happening and engage properly. Instead of missing tackles or having coverage breakdowns by one or two players, the defense needs to be strong all game.

There is a ton of young ability on this team, and that youth needs to turn into real on-field production.

No more excuses!

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:36 PM
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Zjg, I will give you Appy St. and 31 1/2 points next year. Lol. Loser can't post for a month. Lol.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:43 PM
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I dont know about you guys, but last weeks loss is still with me.  cant get over it

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Sunday, December 08, 2013 2:42 PM
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Hahahahahahaha somebody actually thinks were a better team than app....wish I'd missed the entire season too man! Wait til our hs level o line comes out next season.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:19 PM
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another off season of getting bigger and stronger and older.  I don't see our offensive line having as many struggles next season.  They should come out with chips on their shoulders after what they showed us this season


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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:59 PM
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The App St "rematch" is a lose/lose situation for Michigan.

1) If we win, people will say that it doesn't matter and does not make up for us losing to them in 07.

2) if we lose.......well....07 all over again.

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:22 PM
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The App St "rematch" is a lose/lose situation for Michigan.

1) If we win, people will say that it doesn't matter and does not make up for us losing to them in 07.

2) if we lose.......well....07 all over again.


It was a "lose-lose" the first time too.
Good luck RR! Go Hoke! Go Blue!

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Re: Gardner Bruised by Disappointing Season - Monday, December 09, 2013 4:39 AM
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I am not automatically buying this well be better next year garbage.I anticipate an akro , UConn performance out of this team until proven otherwise. I've bitten wayyyyyy too many years now........I'm wising up. And its not on the kids, before somebody else tries to say I kid basb......its that 400lb boat anchor we have in that press box, our o line and db coaches. How they still have jobs I don't understand.. just don't try to sell me a turd wearing perfume and tell me its the prom queen..

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