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Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:15 PM
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http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index
 
Straight from the horses mouth.  Everyone coming back and DG too!
 
http://www.freep.com/article/20131202/SPORTS06/312020085/michigan-wolverines-devin-gardner-coaching-staff
 

“I anticipate the staff (returning),” he said, speaking after a Ford Field event to publicize Child ID kits in a partnership between Ford, the UAW and the American Football Coaches Association.

Asked directly if there would be no changes, he said that’s “correct.”
When it was pointed out the offensive coordinator Al Borges has received significant attention for the offense’s November struggles (before Ohio State), he spread the accountability.

“There’s a lot of things we didn’t do as well as we could have, all through the program,” he said.

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:17 PM
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Ummmmm yay? Guess its gonna be another long 5 yrs.........again.

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:19 PM
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That sound you hear is 90% of Wolverine Nation shouting expletives

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:24 PM
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Fine Brady, go down with your troops.
 
Individual loyalty trumps the good of the program.
 
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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:25 PM
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I knew it.  Hoke's fatal flaw is his loyalty.   I am furious!

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:29 PM
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Sad news, to be honest. I was really hoping for him to make the right decisions regarding a few of his staff members. That decision will come back to haunt him. AND, it's gonna drive all of us nuts.
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Fine Brady, go down with your troops.

Individual loyalty trumps the good of the program.



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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:31 PM
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Not surprised. I didn't truely believe we would see any staff changes until at least year 4.

I want to see the same performance from the offense that we saw against Ohio in the bowl game.

I also want to see that play calling EVERY SINGLE GAME next year.
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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:32 PM
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Link takes me to 'Page Not Found'.

You effing with us, has the story been taken down, or does it just not like my phone?

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:36 PM
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http://www.freep.com/arti...gardner-coaching-staff



“I anticipate the staff (returning),” he said, speaking after a Ford Field event to publicize Child ID kits in a partnership between Ford, the UAW and the American Football Coaches Association.

Asked directly if there would be no changes, he said that’s “correct.”

When it was pointed out the offensive coordinator Al Borges has received significant attention for the offense’s November struggles (before Ohio State), he spread the accountability.

“There’s a lot of things we didn’t do as well as we could have, all through the program,” he said.

Hoke said he evaluates his coaches constantly and will continue in the weeks to come.

“You always do it, before the bowl game, after the bowl game,” he said

Hoke received a strong statement of support from athletic director Dave Brandon last week.

“I’ve got a very loyal boss, he knows what we’re doing and how the program is going when you look at how the recruiting is going,” Hoke said.

And the reason U-M fans should be encouraged next year after this 7-5 season?

“Because of the youth that has contributed and how they have progressed through the year,” he said.

He said he has not talked to Gardner about next year but said “he’ll be back.”

“He played awfully hard, we were a little inconsistent at times,” Hoke said.


Go Blue!!

Ohio St.'s actions are not unlike their lower intestine: stinky and loaded with danger.


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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:40 PM
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I really hope this was before the sarikisian hire at usc. I would throw Chad Morris money at oregeon if that got him here.

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:43 PM
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Absence of bad does not mean good. However, I'm not surprised by the decision, this is Michigan fergodsakes.

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Ohio St.'s actions are not unlike their lower intestine: stinky and loaded with danger.


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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:49 PM
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goblueinohio


I really hope this was before the sarikisian hire at usc. I would throw Chad Morris money at oregeon if that got him here.


As a coordinator? Ed O. is a defensive guy!
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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 3:54 PM
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That sound you hear is 90% of Wolverine Nation shouting expletives


And the other 10% are cheers from the fan base/coaching staff/players from every team on our schedule next year….

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:13 PM
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How in the hell at a bare minimum not get rid of our O line coach? I mean seriously dude? We got to find somebody that can develop at least a 1st string starting line by next season! This guy couldn't get anything going in how many games now? Now were losing our 2 bookend seniors? One AA, and one prob all BIG 2nd stringer? WE ARE IN SERIOUS SERIOUS TROUBLE!

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:18 PM
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It does say "anticipates."  So maybe it's not set in stone.
 
 
With that being said, it's out of our hands.  Either get on or get of the train, because it'll roll on without you.
 
CHOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:26 PM
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WolvyMike


It does say "anticipates."  So maybe it's not set in stone.



 
I noticed that, too. OK- so if, during the bowl game, he (Borges) goes back to his pre-Ohio game planning and game calling, and we only put up 175 yards of offense, 10 points, and 2 or more turnovers, does Hoke let him go? What would it take for Hoke to cut him loose, or is "Borges 2014" a foregone conclusion?

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:34 PM
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Not surprised. I didn't truely believe we would see any staff changes until at least year 4.

I want to see the same performance from the offense that we saw against Ohio in the bowl game.

I also want to see that play calling EVERY SINGLE GAME next year.

If it didn't happen the first 3 years, why would you expect it in year 4?
 
Just wondering.
 
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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:36 PM
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WolvyMike


It does say "anticipates."  So maybe it's not set in stone.




I noticed that, too. OK- so if, during the bowl game, he (Borges) goes back to his pre-Ohio game planning and game calling, and we only put up 175 yards of offense, 10 points, and 2 or more turnovers, does Hoke let him go? What would it take for Hoke to cut him loose, or is "Borges 2014" a foregone conclusion?


Asked directly if there would be no changes, Hoke said that’s “correct.”

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:37 PM
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This doesn't mean that the coaching staff will stay intact for certain. Given with how Hoke is with the media, what did you expect him to say? Coach A, B, and C are all fired immediately!
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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:41 PM
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I'm sorry, I don't buy the youth BS excuse, especially when they brought up how they progressed through the season. There was no progress, they regressed all f*cking year!!!!!!!

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:41 PM
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2 things can happen next year...

1. Michigan will win the B10 next year and all coaches will get a 3-4 year extension...I’m fairly certain every Michigan fan would gladly take a B10 championship next season.

2. And what's the flip side of that? We fumble around to another 7-5/8-4 season, start over again and take more steps back. Have you seen our schedule for next year?

Appt St - that should be fun again
AT ND
Utah
AT Rutgers
AT M$U
AT Northwestern
AT O$U

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Ohio St.'s actions are not unlike their lower intestine: stinky and loaded with danger.


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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:44 PM
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This doesn't mean that the coaching staff will stay intact for certain. Given with how Hoke is with the media, what did you expect him to say? Coach A, B, and C are all fired immediately!


Why not? Florida fired their OC and OL Coach less than 24hrs after the season ended. They were proactive instead of reactive like Hoke and Michigan are now. He can't fire any if the coaches now because then he lied, so we have to hope Borges or Funk or any other coach leaves on their own terms.

Go Blue!!

Ohio St.'s actions are not unlike their lower intestine: stinky and loaded with danger.


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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 4:53 PM
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WolvyMike


It does say "anticipates."  So maybe it's not set in stone.


With that being said, it's out of our hands.  Either get on or get of the train, because it'll roll on without you.

CHOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

also says "before and AFTER" the bowl game too.......I hope borgy lays a huge stinky turd at the 50 yd line....I hate that for the team though, but I think its worth it in the big picture. 


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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 5:06 PM
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UMWolverine5


This doesn't mean that the coaching staff will stay intact for certain. Given with how Hoke is with the media, what did you expect him to say? Coach A, B, and C are all fired immediately!


Why not? Florida fired their OC and OL Coach less than 24hrs after the season ended. They were proactive instead of reactive like Hoke and Michigan are now. He can't fire any if the coaches now because then he lied, so we have to hope Borges or Funk or any other coach leaves on their own terms.

Go Blue!!

Florida not having a bowl game helped with that, but might have fired the OC anyway.
 
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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 5:15 PM
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UMWolverine5


This doesn't mean that the coaching staff will stay intact for certain. Given with how Hoke is with the media, what did you expect him to say? Coach A, B, and C are all fired immediately!


Why not? Florida fired their OC and OL Coach less than 24hrs after the season ended. They were proactive instead of reactive like Hoke and Michigan are now. He can't fire any if the coaches now because then he lied, so we have to hope Borges or Funk or any other coach leaves on their own terms.

Go Blue!!

Florida not having a bowl game helped with that, but might have fired the OC anyway.

oh dam, i didnt realize FLorida missed the bowl season all together....I figured they had 6 wins at least...YIKES!!!

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 5:21 PM
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This doesn't mean that the coaching staff will stay intact for certain. Given with how Hoke is with the media, what did you expect him to say? Coach A, B, and C are all fired immediately!


Why not? Florida fired their OC and OL Coach less than 24hrs after the season ended. They were proactive instead of reactive like Hoke and Michigan are now. He can't fire any if the coaches now because then he lied, so we have to hope Borges or Funk or any other coach leaves on their own terms.

Go Blue!!

Florida not having a bowl game helped with that, but might have fired the OC anyway.


Therein lies the rub...if you fire Borges before the bowl game, who the hell calls plays for the bowl game and bowl practices? Funk? Jackson? Dave Brandon? Haha

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 5:22 PM
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Yeah I believe they ended up 4-8

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 5:37 PM
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ScottsdaleBlue


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UMWolverine5


This doesn't mean that the coaching staff will stay intact for certain. Given with how Hoke is with the media, what did you expect him to say? Coach A, B, and C are all fired immediately!


Why not? Florida fired their OC and OL Coach less than 24hrs after the season ended. They were proactive instead of reactive like Hoke and Michigan are now. He can't fire any if the coaches now because then he lied, so we have to hope Borges or Funk or any other coach leaves on their own terms.

Go Blue!!

Florida not having a bowl game helped with that, but might have fired the OC anyway.


Therein lies the rub...if you fire Borges before the bowl game, who the hell calls plays for the bowl game and bowl practices? Funk? Jackson? Dave Brandon? Haha

Go Blue!!

Well, not to toot my own horn, but I did invent the Big New yorker pizza pie. We all know what a bang out success that was! I feel that justly entitles me to play calling..........All our plays will be named after pizza topping combinations. "Pepperoni, black olives, extra cheese, on 3" they wont see that coming.

 
  I like hamburgers better, Dave......

 
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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 6:12 PM
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per Sam Webb
 
 
@SamWebb77: I hear staff’s future won't be set until evals are done. Status quo is “anticipated”, but not definite.


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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 6:28 PM
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I thought this was Hoke's dream job?  For him to cast his lot with his guys rather than bringing in fresh coaches is unreal.  He's just tied a millstone around his neck for next season and it won't take much for it to end up at the bottom of the lake.

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 8:30 PM
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This is great news.....for the rest of the Big Ten.  Brady is going to choose to lose his job because of his loyalty to Borges.  Buh bye.

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 9:12 PM
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jsj_297

I like hamburgers better, Dave......


I like that a lot.  Where's Brett to brow-beat you for getting personal?
 
Phrint


This is great news.....for the rest of the Big Ten.  Brady is going to choose to lose his job because of his loyalty to Borges.  Buh bye.

If that was for certain, I'd be all for it, but if Brandumb isn't forcing Hoke to get rid of Gorgeous after this season then Brade has at least a couple more of years of stealing from UM to look forward to.

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 9:15 PM
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This is actually good.  Both Hoke and Borges will flame out again next year and ALL of them could be gone. Otherwise, we'd just be looking at another revolving door ala' Rod and his DC's.  This way, there can be no excuses.  4 years is PLENTY in today's world.  You either have it or you don't and these 2 ass hats have shown NOTHING in 3 years.  

 

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 9:35 PM
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Wow again we have a poster who I won't name because he's a crybaby douche saying he hopes we do horrible in our bowl game... Seems to me this a$$hat from mid season on wants our team to fail, helluva fan...........
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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Monday, December 02, 2013 9:37 PM
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So sad that we're looking at another 6-6 / 7-5 season. Just like the folks working at the Sears tower heard the guy as he passed outside their windows: looking good so far, looking good so far....... Flame out. At least 4 more years of mediocrity. I had hopes for Hoke, but only feel despair now. Can't keep doing the same things the same way and expect change. This team got worse as the year went on - isn't that on the coaching staff given there was not an over-whelming injury plague responsible? And the ticket prices don't drop. Whose the fool - the guys behind the curtain, or the suckers buying the tickets?

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 3:29 AM
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Uh oh, looks like somebody broke mom and dads internet password lock again........

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:50 AM
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I don't know why I was thinking he was their o coach. He'll bring him in as a d line coach and another top recruiter!!!

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:43 AM
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Ah, yeah.

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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:07 AM
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Hoke will still make evaluations and then decide as Sam Webb said. So take it easy, Scottsdale.
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Re:Well Folks....Here's your answer... All staff staying - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:12 AM
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Sam Webb (@SamWebb77)
12/2/13, 6:05 PM
I hear staff’s future won't be set until evals are done. Status quo is “anticipated”, but not definite.


 

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