Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan

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Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:25 PM (permalink)
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Far more important than wins and losses, Michigan needs an identity. Will that come from new offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier? Will that come from a young and raw but talented offensive line? Or will that come from the dynamic athletes on this team like Gardner, Jabrill Peppers and Devin Funchess?

And as long as we’re setting the parameters for Michigan in 2014, it’s time to put to rest the name Rich Rodriguez. He was the wrong coach for Michigan, we can all agree on that. But it’s been over three years since he coached a game and that was four recruiting classes ago. You can blame your predecessor for only so long, and then it’s time to focus the blame on yourself. Nobody in the program has criticized what Rodriguez left behind. And they did go 11-2 in 2011 largely using Rodriguez recruited players. But there are many in the fan base that want to give Hoke a pass only because of what he inherited. That was fine in year one and year two. It starts to get iffy in year three. And it’s downright stale in year four.


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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:09 PM (permalink)
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Find an identity and the wins will pile up.

And I absolutely disagree about RR. we still felt the affects of him and his recruiting last year, and just take a look at this year's senior class, 12 players!! In my book Hoke got a free pass for the first three years bc our recruiting numbers were do skewed by RR. now, however, is year 4 and Hoke's guys are juniors and down. I expect a much stabler Michigan team now.
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:24 PM (permalink)
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I thought we were powerhouse again?
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:33 PM (permalink)
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I call BS.  Win total absolutely is as if not more important.  Just win baby!
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:55 PM (permalink)
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Find an identity and the wins will pile up.

And I absolutely disagree about RR. we still felt the affects of him and his recruiting last year, and just take a look at this year's senior class, 12 players!! In my book Hoke got a free pass for the first three years bc our recruiting numbers were do skewed by RR. now, however, is year 4 and Hoke's guys are juniors and down. I expect a much stabler Michigan team now.

If you want to throw blame around, at least be consistent. Can't blame RR for Hoke's 3 years but absolve Carr from having anything to do with RR's 3 years.
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:02 PM (permalink)
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Win total is absolutely important. If we only win seven games again, nobody is going to say, "Well at least we ran the ball well this year and played better 3rd down defense!"
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:32 PM (permalink)
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Certainly reads like a piece written with the complete approval of the AD's PR department.

Nothing novel about it.
"We have to work harder."
-Brady "BRadio" Hoke during any post-game press conference in the last year.
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:45 PM (permalink)
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Wait! BHF blaming recruiting? The roster being depleted?

Carr left RRod 1 returning starter on the offense! 1!

Stop blaming just RRod all the time. Ya Hoke is out recruiting him and we don't always get blown out when we lose, but more than half of our recruits have shown no progress whatsoever. At least RRod showed progression.
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:56 PM (permalink)
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Wait! BHF blaming recruiting? The roster being depleted?

Carr left RRod 1 returning starter on the offense! 1!

Stop blaming just RRod all the time. Ya Hoke is out recruiting him and we don't always get blown out when we lose, but more than half of our recruits have shown no progress whatsoever. At least RRod showed progression.

1 full time starter....3 that had starting experience. Steve Schilling, Carson Butler, and Greg Mathews. Only Schilling is really worth noting.
 
Like I said though, my issue is consistency with BHF. This is a direct quote from BHF before RR even finished his 2nd season here....."Stop blaming Carr. It's getting really old and just plain untrue. The Man's worst season was 7 wins. RR can't even get to Carr's worst. Carr went 20-6 his last two years and is now two years removed. This is ALL on RR."
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 5:52 PM (permalink)
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^^^ uh ohhhh.....bhf is going to have a stroke. Lol
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 7:40 PM (permalink)
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What a croc!! The win total is the only f**king thing that matters.
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:06 PM (permalink)
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I blame Shawn Crable for hitting Troy Smifh late on 4th and long for an automatic first down when we had that game won.  
LETS GET BACK TO WINNING
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:31 PM (permalink)
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I blame Shawn Crable for hitting Troy Smifh late on 4th and long for an automatic first down when we had that game won.  

Except we didn't have the game won, we were trailing at the time it happened. All that play did was seal the win for pOSU.
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:38 PM (permalink)
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I could of sworn we where up . I have to hunt that video down now.
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:44 PM (permalink)
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I could of sworn we where up . I have to hunt that video down now.


 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:46 PM (permalink)
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and you guys got on me for my App st fg GIF?? wow
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:49 PM (permalink)
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I just had to clarify that we were trailing when the Crable hit happened. Also, with mine you have to hit play on it and it is only in 1 post, it isn't on a continuous loop every other post.
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:58 PM (permalink)
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RR ran off his share of players, a ton left early for the draft because they didnt want to be forced to play a system they didnt fit, and RR refused to adapt to his players, then recruited a lot players who, lets face it, shouldn't have been playing for Michigan.
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:18 PM (permalink)
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I can't even take you serious when you use the words "ran off".
 
Players leaving early (even if that was the real reason) would be Martin's fault, not RR's
 
Adapt to his players is a joke. 2008 had nothing to do with the zone read as everyone makes it seem. People act like Threet and Sheridan running zone read was the problem, it wasn't. Their passing was ATTROCIOUS. 
 
It is completely RR's fault for the 2010 class.....but it apparently his fault for the 2005 class flaming out just as hard.
 
So this seems to be how things play out in your head, in 2011....RR gets zero credit, but Hoke/Mattison and Carr do
In 2012 and 2013 it is RR's fault (and I will be fair to you, you may blame Borges a little) but Hoke gets no blame.
 
Do you seriously understand how nuts you sound?
 
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Re:Win total is not as important as identity for Brady Hoke, Michigan Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:24 PM (permalink)
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