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RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:24 AM (permalink)
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according to ESPN.com:


"Rich Rodriguez. Not even the chameleon can change colors to match every environment. Maize and blue, of course, didn't work for Rodriguez, now entering his third year in charge at Arizona. But in every other situation, he's adapted well. Rodriguez, interestingly, played defensive back at West Virginia and served as defensive coordinator at Salem College before the school dropped its program and he essentially started over in the business as a volunteer at his alma mater. A winding road took him to Tulane in 1997, where Rodriguez began to display the offensive innovation for which he achieved fame back at WVU, leading the Mountaineers to national prominence in 2007. The desert has proved a good home for Rich Rod, with running back Ka'Deem Carey as the latest to reach stardom through the coach's adaptable system."

Good for RR!
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Sunday, June 15, 2014 9:42 AM (permalink)
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Adapts well my ass!

He was a stubborn SOB at Michigan where it was his way or the highway. He didn't adapt sh*t! Steven Threet running the read option is adapting? F'n laughable.

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P.S. it's funny how "supposedly" 2 of the top "adaptable" coaches in America (RichRod and Shafer) were at Michigan during their worst and most embarrassing stretch of football in the last 50yrs.

Yeah, adaptable my ass.

Ohio St.'s actions are not unlike their lower intestine: stinky and loaded with danger.

 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Sunday, June 15, 2014 10:46 AM (permalink)
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The zone read wasn't Threet's problem (believe it or not, Threet's rushing numbers at Michigan are better than Tate Forcier's) it was his passing. How in the holy hell did he only complete 51% of his passes in what is supposed to be a dink and dunk passing attack? 
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Sunday, June 15, 2014 10:57 AM (permalink)
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Hey, SD, not saying I agree. Just pointing out the story. Don't shoot the messenger!! lol!!
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Sunday, June 15, 2014 11:30 AM (permalink)
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The zone read wasn't Threet's problem (believe it or not, Threet's rushing numbers at Michigan are better than Tate Forcier's) it was his passing. How in the holy hell did he only complete 51% of his passes in what is supposed to be a dink and dunk passing attack? 


Was it that high? Haha

He couldn't hit the board side of a barn.

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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Sunday, June 15, 2014 6:35 PM (permalink)
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Threet. LoL Id already forgot about him.
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 2:28 AM (permalink)
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Adapts well my ass!

He was a stubborn SOB at Michigan where it was his way or the highway. He didn't adapt sh*t! Steven Threet running the read option is adapting? F'n laughable.

Go Blue!!

P.S. it's funny how "supposedly" 2 of the top "adaptable" coaches in America (RichRod and Shafer) were at Michigan during their worst and most embarrassing stretch of football in the last 50yrs.

Yeah, adaptable my ass.


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The zone read wasn't Threet's problem (believe it or not, Threet's rushing numbers at Michigan are better than Tate Forcier's) it was his passing. How in the holy hell did he only complete 51% of his passes in what is supposed to be a dink and dunk passing attack? 


Was it that high? Haha

He couldn't hit the board side of a barn.

Go Blue!!


Here we go again.  So, according to you, Steven Threet couldn't really throw or run the zone read (I doubt anyone would disagree with you, including myself).  If RR is being blasted for not adapting, I'm curious as to what he could have done to win games that year with the roster he inherited.  Actually, let's just forget about RR.  What would YOU have done if you were head coach of the 2008 squad?  If you ask me, he walked into a situation where he was screwed either way, why not install your system early on and bank on later seasons. 
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 7:42 AM (permalink)
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Amazing how much the man's name moves the dial 4yrs later.
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 10:20 AM (permalink)
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I'm sure he made some friends in the media when he did his TV stuff. Sure their is some
Bias there. And, I'm sure he will do just fine in az too. I think he will be competing for pac12 championships eventually.
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 11:20 AM (permalink)
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I'm so sick of seeing RRs name popping up on this site.  Never in my life have I seen such a bunch of obessive fans obsessing over a fired coach.
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 11:31 AM (permalink)
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^ 100% agree! Jesus Christ guys, move on!
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 12:58 PM (permalink)
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Hey, guys, no one is forcing you to read the thread. Was just surprised he would be considered a coach who adapted well.
<message edited by UMWingedHelmet on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:11 AM>
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 1:46 PM (permalink)
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The problem with these RR threads is there are still 2 camps regarding RR. One that believes he is the worst thing to ever happen to Michigan football, and the other that believes he just needed one more season to turn the corner. So when there is a RR thread it is generally an argument starter over the same questions....the problem is though we have had these arguments so many times there really isn't anything new to say.
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 1:48 PM (permalink)
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The problem with these RR threads is there are still 2 camps regarding RR. One that believes he is the worst thing to ever happen to Michigan football, and the other that believes he just needed one more season to turn the corner. So when there is a RR thread it is generally an argument starter over the same questions....the problem is though we have had these arguments so many times there really isn't anything new to say.

And there's the "don't give a f**k" it ultimately doesn't matter" camp
 
 
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 1:53 PM (permalink)
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Maize927


The problem with these RR threads is there are still 2 camps regarding RR. One that believes he is the worst thing to ever happen to Michigan football, and the other that believes he just needed one more season to turn the corner. So when there is a RR thread it is generally an argument starter over the same questions....the problem is though we have had these arguments so many times there really isn't anything new to say.

And there's the "don't give a f**k" it ultimately doesn't matter" camp



That is the camp where those of us on both sides of the argument get to when we realize there is nothing new to add to the argument. 
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 6:32 PM (permalink)
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Cool AV 927.

 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 6:43 PM (permalink)
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Thx 297
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Monday, June 16, 2014 11:09 PM (permalink)
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I'm in the "Homeboy doesn't work here anymore, wasn't successful when he was here, and we will never if he would have been successful, I am just bloody sick and tired of seeing his damn name popping up on this site" Camp.  
 
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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:48 AM (permalink)
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Adapts well my ass!

He was a stubborn SOB at Michigan where it was his way or the highway. He didn't adapt sh*t! Steven Threet running the read option is adapting? F'n laughable.

Go Blue!!

P.S. it's funny how "supposedly" 2 of the top "adaptable" coaches in America (RichRod and Shafer) were at Michigan during their worst and most embarrassing stretch of football in the last 50yrs.

Yeah, adaptable my ass.


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The zone read wasn't Threet's problem (believe it or not, Threet's rushing numbers at Michigan are better than Tate Forcier's) it was his passing. How in the holy hell did he only complete 51% of his passes in what is supposed to be a dink and dunk passing attack? 


Was it that high? Haha

He couldn't hit the board side of a barn.

Go Blue!!


Here we go again.  So, according to you, Steven Threet couldn't really throw or run the zone read (I doubt anyone would disagree with you, including myself).  If RR is being blasted for not adapting, I'm curious as to what he could have done to win games that year with the roster he inherited.  Actually, let's just forget about RR.  What would YOU have done if you were head coach of the 2008 squad?  If you ask me, he walked into a situation where he was screwed either way, why not install your system early on and bank on later seasons. 


It's the offseason and it's June sooooo, what the hell, here we go...

RichRod failed because his defenses and special teams worsened every year and were frankly horrible by the end of his tenure. Also, he failed to evolve his offense past the spread's origins. His passing game lacked the conceptual nature necessary to succeed as teams adapted to his spread's basic tendencies. He didn't diversify his offense in the way Oregon has to counteract defenses adapting. He never embraced plays such as the midline option, inverted veer, power or counter trey like others. While the offense was largely successful once Denard was in place, it never hummed in the way Oregon's offense did (particularly against better teams) to overcome the sh*tty-ass defense and special teams.

However, to answer your question, RichRod went 6-18 in B10games. I would have hired better assistant coaches, recruited better and squeezed enough production out of the roster and won at least 10 games in my first season. I would not have lost to Toledo, missed a bowl for the first time in 33 years, suffered the first losing season since the 1960s, put the program on probation with major sanctions and employed revolving-door defensive philosophies.

I would have beat O$U, M$U and P$U. I wouldn't have gone 0-9. I wouldn't have been outscored by a total of 317-140 in those nine games.

I would not send in the smallest running back (V. Smith) and throw him into a power I on 3rd and short to watch the play get stuffed 90% of the time.

I would have taught the fundamentals and increased the football IQ of the team which down right sucked under RichRod. Tackling looked worse every year. Some how players already on the roster got worse. My team would not have botched punt return after botched punt return and had fumbles galore...

I wouldn't have hired a DC, then fight with him every week and force my will on him at Purdue as the team runs the 3-3-5 and is beaten by a converted RB playing QB. I would not have fired that dude (who goes to Syracuse ironically and coached a pretty damn good defense) and hire a Orange Reject and watch the defense take a bigger nose dive as the players are thinking so much on the field they forget they are playing football and it costs the team one win after another.

I wouldn't have thought red shirts were some mythical creatures who don't exist. I wouldn't burn players red shirts on special team plays and garbage time, etc.p

I would have paid attention to the D. I wouldn't have treated it like it was there to get the offense ready in practice week in and week out and not be able stop anyone. I wouldn't have tried to out score everyone which of course is totally unrealistic. I wouldn't have hired and fired DCs and changed schemes every year so the players didn't know their head from their ass. Spinner, 3-3-5, 4-2-5, death backer and all these cool names don't mean sh*t.

I wouldn't have allowed Wisconsin to run the same play 20 times in a row and not been able to stop it.

Finally, I would have had the diplomatic skills to handle the job. Being the coach at Michigan (or any major program) is as much of being a public face of the university as anything else.

These are just a couple things off the top of my head... :)

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Re:RichRod one of top coaches to adapt..... Tuesday, June 17, 2014 2:40 PM (permalink)
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^^ yeah, yeah, yeah, besides all that, what would u have down? ;)
 
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