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Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:16 AM (permalink)
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Last week, Michigan head football coach Brady Hoke replaced embattled offensive coordinator Al Borges with Doug Nussmeier, who comes from Alabama where he served as offensive coordinator under Nick Saban for the past two seasons.
Nussmeier helped Alabama set offensive records in his first season (2012) for touchdowns (68), total points (542) and total offense (6,237). He also mentored quarterback AJ McCarron while capturing a national title. But the Alabama offensestuttered somewhat this past season, as Alabama failed to defend its national title.

 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:48 AM (permalink)
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Yeahhhh the offense...not the lack of effort on special teams, huh? I can't believe their special teams coach hasnt been sh*t canned yet.
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:48 AM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.
 
Defense
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:31 PM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.

Defense

We haven't scored an offensive TD against Sparty in 2 years. We ranked 87th in total offense, 46th in scoring offense, 103rd in rushing offense, 51st in passing offense, and led the country in negative plays.
 
I don't give the defense a free pass because they have plenty of issues (worse D-line and secondary in years), but the offense was and has been in terrible shape.
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:26 PM (permalink)
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Is it possible our defend has regressed from the RR era? Lol that's S.A.D. SAD!
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:50 PM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.

Defense

We haven't scored an offensive TD against Sparty in 2 years. We ranked 87th in total offense, 46th in scoring offense, 103rd in rushing offense, 51st in passing offense, and led the country in negative plays.

I don't give the defense a free pass because they have plenty of issues (worse D-line and secondary in years), but the offense was and has been in terrible shape.

I think he was saying Offense was not the problem at Bama b/c Phil wrote that it 'stuttered somewhat this past season'.
 
I agree with swoosh (shudder).  Bama averaged more PPG and YPG this year than last according to Rivals, but they played one fewer game not qualifying for the SEC championship game, so the aggregate numbers were down.  Their D allowed a little more PPG and almost 30 yards more per game in 2013 versus 2012. 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:51 PM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.

Defense

We haven't scored an offensive TD against Sparty in 2 years. We ranked 87th in total offense, 46th in scoring offense, 103rd in rushing offense, 51st in passing offense, and led the country in negative plays.

I don't give the defense a free pass because they have plenty of issues (worse D-line and secondary in years), but the offense was and has been in terrible shape.


I’m sure some sparty rube out there has a t-shirt or sign that says something like ‘1095 days since little brother scored a TD against us…’

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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 8:10 AM (permalink)
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If they don't, they do now.
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 8:18 AM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.

Defense

We haven't scored an offensive TD against Sparty in 2 years. We ranked 87th in total offense, 46th in scoring offense, 103rd in rushing offense, 51st in passing offense, and led the country in negative plays.

I don't give the defense a free pass because they have plenty of issues (worse D-line and secondary in years), but the offense was and has been in terrible shape.


I’m sure some sparty rube out there has a t-shirt or sign that says something like ‘1095 days since little brother scored a TD against us…’

Go Blue!!

Hopefully those days are over.  Nussmeier has matched wits with some of the best defensive minds in the country at Bama, he should be able to with Narduzzi as well.
 
We may actually enjoy a schematic advantage on offense for a change.
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:44 AM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.

Defense

We haven't scored an offensive TD against Sparty in 2 years. We ranked 87th in total offense, 46th in scoring offense, 103rd in rushing offense, 51st in passing offense, and led the country in negative plays.

I don't give the defense a free pass because they have plenty of issues (worse D-line and secondary in years), but the offense was and has been in terrible shape.


I’m sure some sparty rube out there has a t-shirt or sign that says something like ‘1095 days since little brother scored a TD against us…’

Go Blue!!

Hopefully those days are over.  Nussmeier has matched wits with some of the best defensive minds in the country at Bama, he should be able to with Narduzzi as well.

We may actually enjoy a schematic advantage on offense for a change.

 
 
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:13 AM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.

Defense

We haven't scored an offensive TD against Sparty in 2 years. We ranked 87th in total offense, 46th in scoring offense, 103rd in rushing offense, 51st in passing offense, and led the country in negative plays.

I don't give the defense a free pass because they have plenty of issues (worse D-line and secondary in years), but the offense was and has been in terrible shape.


I’m sure some sparty rube out there has a t-shirt or sign that says something like ‘1095 days since little brother scored a TD against us…’

Go Blue!!

Hopefully those days are over.  Nussmeier has matched wits with some of the best defensive minds in the country at Bama, he should be able to with Narduzzi as well.

We may actually enjoy a schematic advantage on offense for a change.




Don't bet on it.


Why do you say that?

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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:33 AM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.

Defense

We haven't scored an offensive TD against Sparty in 2 years. We ranked 87th in total offense, 46th in scoring offense, 103rd in rushing offense, 51st in passing offense, and led the country in negative plays.

I don't give the defense a free pass because they have plenty of issues (worse D-line and secondary in years), but the offense was and has been in terrible shape.


I’m sure some sparty rube out there has a t-shirt or sign that says something like ‘1095 days since little brother scored a TD against us…’

Go Blue!!

Hopefully those days are over.  Nussmeier has matched wits with some of the best defensive minds in the country at Bama, he should be able to with Narduzzi as well.

We may actually enjoy a schematic advantage on offense for a change.




Don't bet on it.


Why do you say that?

Go Blue!!

I`m guessing this is where the "Bama was ridiculously talented, a boob could win with their talent" argument comes in.
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:37 AM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.

Defense

We haven't scored an offensive TD against Sparty in 2 years. We ranked 87th in total offense, 46th in scoring offense, 103rd in rushing offense, 51st in passing offense, and led the country in negative plays.

I don't give the defense a free pass because they have plenty of issues (worse D-line and secondary in years), but the offense was and has been in terrible shape.


I’m sure some sparty rube out there has a t-shirt or sign that says something like ‘1095 days since little brother scored a TD against us…’

Go Blue!!

Hopefully those days are over.  Nussmeier has matched wits with some of the best defensive minds in the country at Bama, he should be able to with Narduzzi as well.

We may actually enjoy a schematic advantage on offense for a change.




Don't bet on it.


Why do you say that?

Go Blue!!

I`m guessing this is where the "Bama was ridiculously talented, a boob could win with their talent" argument comes in.

Michigan had some pretty good talent in the Carr era, they lost more than they should have.
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:40 AM (permalink)
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Nussmeier is a good coach, but if you're under the impression that he radically changed Alabama's offense and is going to be able to magically apply some sort of wizardry to this Michigan roster so it suddenly resembles the last two years of smashmouth Alabama football, you're daydreaming and haven't been paying attention.
 
But that wasn't even my point. The "schematic advantage" is something Michigan has very specifically stayed away from. "Schematic advantage" is what Malzahn at Auburn, Kelly at Oregon, Meyer at OSU, etc. utilize. Stretching the field horizontally and vertically, stressing the defense at every imaginable point until it breaks. Hoke isn't interested in any of that, and neither is the offensive coordinator he just hired from Alabama. Lining up and bullying the guys in front of you isn't "schematic advantage." It's the oldschool 1970s era "manball" that Michigan and Michigan fans have a fetish for.
 
At Ohio State, they line up with 3 wide to spread the field, clear the box, and let 240-pound Carlos Hyde rumble up the middle with little resistance.
 
At Michigan, the goal is to try and be what Stanford and Alabama have become. Line up in the I, with two tight ends, basically tell the defense what you're going to do, and then do it anyway because your guys are bigger, stronger, faster, and better than their guys. It can work out just fine, when you actually ARE bigger, stronger, faster, and better than the other team. When you're not, you look foolish as you plunge your fullback into a stacked line that loses the Rose Bowl because MSU knew it was coming.
 
Michigan is not, has not, and will not be about obtaining a "schematic advantage."
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:47 AM (permalink)
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It was not the offense that was the problem.

Defense

We haven't scored an offensive TD against Sparty in 2 years. We ranked 87th in total offense, 46th in scoring offense, 103rd in rushing offense, 51st in passing offense, and led the country in negative plays.

I don't give the defense a free pass because they have plenty of issues (worse D-line and secondary in years), but the offense was and has been in terrible shape.


I’m sure some sparty rube out there has a t-shirt or sign that says something like ‘1095 days since little brother scored a TD against us…’

Go Blue!!

Hopefully those days are over.  Nussmeier has matched wits with some of the best defensive minds in the country at Bama, he should be able to with Narduzzi as well.

We may actually enjoy a schematic advantage on offense for a change.




Don't bet on it.


Why do you say that?

Go Blue!!

I`m guessing this is where the "Bama was ridiculously talented, a boob could win with their talent" argument comes in.

Michigan had some pretty good talent in the Carr era, they lost more than they should have.

Oh I don't buy the talent argument, it's just one that's out there. His years at Washington disprove the talent argument IMO.
 
Bama has had a talent advantage over most teams for years, they still went out and scored below their potential (say the 6pts they scored against LSU in 2010. Alabama scored almost a TD more under Nuss than they averaged over the previous 4 years that included NC teams and teams with more offensive talent than the last 2 seasons. Nuss never had a Julio Jones outside, or a Trent Richardson/Ingram in the backfield. Lacy and Yeldon are definitely talented, but different from T-Rich and Ingram. Both of whom were 1st round picks.
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:20 AM (permalink)
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Nussmeier is a good coach, but if you're under the impression that he radically changed Alabama's offense and is going to be able to magically apply some sort of wizardry to this Michigan roster so it suddenly resembles the last two years of smashmouth Alabama football, you're daydreaming and haven't been paying attention.

But that wasn't even my point. The "schematic advantage" is something Michigan has very specifically stayed away from. "Schematic advantage" is what Malzahn at Auburn, Kelly at Oregon, Meyer at OSU, etc. utilize. Stretching the field horizontally and vertically, stressing the defense at every imaginable point until it breaks. Hoke isn't interested in any of that, and neither is the offensive coordinator he just hired from Alabama. Lining up and bullying the guys in front of you isn't "schematic advantage." It's the oldschool 1970s era "manball" that Michigan and Michigan fans have a fetish for.

At Ohio State, they line up with 3 wide to spread the field, clear the box, and let 240-pound Carlos Hyde rumble up the middle with little resistance.

At Michigan, the goal is to try and be what Stanford and Alabama have become. Line up in the I, with two tight ends, basically tell the defense what you're going to do, and then do it anyway because your guys are bigger, stronger, faster, and better than their guys. It can work out just fine, when you actually ARE bigger, stronger, faster, and better than the other team. When you're not, you look foolish as you plunge your fullback into a stacked line that loses the Rose Bowl because MSU knew it was coming.

Michigan is not, has not, and will not be about obtaining a "schematic advantage."

 
after the last several years of UM fb (besides 2011), I wouldn't mind having stanford/bama results of the past two years.  besides that, what usually happens when a team that has a schematic advantage (oregon, using your example) plays a physical style FB team (i.e. stanford)?
 
malzahn, meyer, helfrich (oregon HC), etc are great coaches and very creative, but even in today's game, FB comes down to blocking + tackling, as well running the ball and the ability to stop the run.  these two components largely determine the success of a  FB team
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:27 AM (permalink)
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Nussmeier is a good coach, but if you're under the impression that he radically changed Alabama's offense and is going to be able to magically apply some sort of wizardry to this Michigan roster so it suddenly resembles the last two years of smashmouth Alabama football, you're daydreaming and haven't been paying attention.

But that wasn't even my point. The "schematic advantage" is something Michigan has very specifically stayed away from. "Schematic advantage" is what Malzahn at Auburn, Kelly at Oregon, Meyer at OSU, etc. utilize. Stretching the field horizontally and vertically, stressing the defense at every imaginable point until it breaks. Hoke isn't interested in any of that, and neither is the offensive coordinator he just hired from Alabama. Lining up and bullying the guys in front of you isn't "schematic advantage." It's the oldschool 1970s era "manball" that Michigan and Michigan fans have a fetish for.

At Ohio State, they line up with 3 wide to spread the field, clear the box, and let 240-pound Carlos Hyde rumble up the middle with little resistance.

At Michigan, the goal is to try and be what Stanford and Alabama have become. Line up in the I, with two tight ends, basically tell the defense what you're going to do, and then do it anyway because your guys are bigger, stronger, faster, and better than their guys. It can work out just fine, when you actually ARE bigger, stronger, faster, and better than the other team. When you're not, you look foolish as you plunge your fullback into a stacked line that loses the Rose Bowl because MSU knew it was coming.

Michigan is not, has not, and will not be about obtaining a "schematic advantage."


after the last several years of UM fb (besides 2011), I wouldn't mind having stanford/bama results in the past two years.  besides that, what usually happens when a team that has a schematic advantage (oregon, using your example) plays a physical style FB team (i.e. stanford)?

malzahn, meyer, helfrich (oregon HC), etc are great coaches and very creative, but even in today's game, FB comes down to blocking + tackling, as well running the ball and the ability to stop the run.  these two components largely determine the success of a  FB team

For every game that you point out like Stanford beating Oregon there is a TCU beating Wisconsin, Oregon and App State beating Michigan, Texas beating USC, and Utah/A&M/Auburn beating Bama. 
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:38 AM (permalink)
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Nussmeier is a good coach, but if you're under the impression that he radically changed Alabama's offense and is going to be able to magically apply some sort of wizardry to this Michigan roster so it suddenly resembles the last two years of smashmouth Alabama football, you're daydreaming and haven't been paying attention.

But that wasn't even my point. The "schematic advantage" is something Michigan has very specifically stayed away from. "Schematic advantage" is what Malzahn at Auburn, Kelly at Oregon, Meyer at OSU, etc. utilize. Stretching the field horizontally and vertically, stressing the defense at every imaginable point until it breaks. Hoke isn't interested in any of that, and neither is the offensive coordinator he just hired from Alabama. Lining up and bullying the guys in front of you isn't "schematic advantage." It's the oldschool 1970s era "manball" that Michigan and Michigan fans have a fetish for.

At Ohio State, they line up with 3 wide to spread the field, clear the box, and let 240-pound Carlos Hyde rumble up the middle with little resistance.

At Michigan, the goal is to try and be what Stanford and Alabama have become. Line up in the I, with two tight ends, basically tell the defense what you're going to do, and then do it anyway because your guys are bigger, stronger, faster, and better than their guys. It can work out just fine, when you actually ARE bigger, stronger, faster, and better than the other team. When you're not, you look foolish as you plunge your fullback into a stacked line that loses the Rose Bowl because MSU knew it was coming.

Michigan is not, has not, and will not be about obtaining a "schematic advantage."


after the last several years of UM fb (besides 2011), I wouldn't mind having stanford/bama results in the past two years.  besides that, what usually happens when a team that has a schematic advantage (oregon, using your example) plays a physical style FB team (i.e. stanford)?

malzahn, meyer, helfrich (oregon HC), etc are great coaches and very creative, but even in today's game, FB comes down to blocking + tackling, as well running the ball and the ability to stop the run.  these two components largely determine the success of a  FB team

For every game that you point out like Stanford beating Oregon there is a TCU beating Wisconsin, Oregon and App State beating Michigan, Texas beating USC, and Utah/A&M/Auburn beating Bama. 

 
i knew this would be mentioned, so let me just say that I should have put the word usually in size 40 font, as in, more often than not, when a flash-and-dash/basketball on grass/glitzy teams play teams play more physically tough and fundamentally sound teams, the latter tends to fare better.  yes, texas beat USC with probably the most naturally/freakishly talented college QB in the history of the game.  yes, A&M beat bama with arguably the most talented dual threat QB ever.  but again, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, teams that are tough, physical, and fundamentally stout will have more long term success, and are less reliant on individually freak talents like vince young, manziel, and one in a million chance endings (iron bowl)



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Nussmeier is a good coach, but if you're under the impression that he radically changed Alabama's offense and is going to be able to magically apply some sort of wizardry to this Michigan roster so it suddenly resembles the last two years of smashmouth Alabama football, you're daydreaming and haven't been paying attention.

But that wasn't even my point. The "schematic advantage" is something Michigan has very specifically stayed away from. "Schematic advantage" is what Malzahn at Auburn, Kelly at Oregon, Meyer at OSU, etc. utilize. Stretching the field horizontally and vertically, stressing the defense at every imaginable point until it breaks. Hoke isn't interested in any of that, and neither is the offensive coordinator he just hired from Alabama. Lining up and bullying the guys in front of you isn't "schematic advantage." It's the oldschool 1970s era "manball" that Michigan and Michigan fans have a fetish for.

At Ohio State, they line up with 3 wide to spread the field, clear the box, and let 240-pound Carlos Hyde rumble up the middle with little resistance.

At Michigan, the goal is to try and be what Stanford and Alabama have become. Line up in the I, with two tight ends, basically tell the defense what you're going to do, and then do it anyway because your guys are bigger, stronger, faster, and better than their guys. It can work out just fine, when you actually ARE bigger, stronger, faster, and better than the other team. When you're not, you look foolish as you plunge your fullback into a stacked line that loses the Rose Bowl because MSU knew it was coming.

Michigan is not, has not, and will not be about obtaining a "schematic advantage."


after the last several years of UM fb (besides 2011), I wouldn't mind having stanford/bama results in the past two years.  besides that, what usually happens when a team that has a schematic advantage (oregon, using your example) plays a physical style FB team (i.e. stanford)?

malzahn, meyer, helfrich (oregon HC), etc are great coaches and very creative, but even in today's game, FB comes down to blocking + tackling, as well running the ball and the ability to stop the run.  these two components largely determine the success of a  FB team

For every game that you point out like Stanford beating Oregon there is a TCU beating Wisconsin, Oregon and App State beating Michigan, Texas beating USC, and Utah/A&M/Auburn beating Bama. 


i knew this would be mentioned, so let me just say that I should have put the word usually in size 40 font, as in, more often than not, when a flash-and-dash/basketball on grass/glitzy teams play teams play more physically tough and fundamentally sound teams, the latter tends to fare better.  yes, texas beat USC with probably the most naturally/freakishly talented college QB in the history of the game.  yes, A&M beat bama with arguably the most talented dual threat QB ever.  but again, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, teams that are tough, physical, and fundamentally stout will have more long term success, and are less reliant on individually freak talents like vince young, manziel, and one in a million chance endings (iron bowl)

The fundamentally sound part I agree with...the tough/physical part I do not. TCU beat Wisconsin because they were more fundamentally sound even though they pushed around the Horned Frogs defense with ease. In the end though TCU held Wisconsin to its worst offensive performance of the season. Before the current 2 game win streak Stanford has over Oregon, Oregon had a 2 game win streak where they beat Stanford by 21 and 23....even though Stanford was the tougher more physical team. These were Stanford teams that went to BCS games, in fact their record over those 2 seasons was 23-3...the 3 losses were to Oregon twice and Oklahoma State another team less physical than they are. 
 
 
 
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Re:Offensive Coordinator Doug Nussmeier's Top 5 Problems Thursday, January 16, 2014 12:42 PM (permalink)
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You can still gain a schematic advantage in the pro-style offense. Mgoblog has a nice post up regarding Bama/OU and how Bama's offense used their base play (inside zone) with their counters and counters-to-counters all throughout ONE game. Borges would show a look, and not come back with the counters until the next week, or multiple weeks down the road. Just adjusting and adapting the offense to what's working is where Nuss will make the most noticeable improvement. Single back, I-form, pistol and shotgun have all been in Nuss's playbook for quite some time.
 
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