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NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:32 PM (permalink)
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http://sports.yahoo.com/b...-223524511--ncaaf.html
 
The first regarding targeting, but the second not allowing the offense to snap the ball before 29 seconds left on the play clock, except in the last 2 minutes of a half. This would allow the defense a chance to substitute on every single play. 
 
I would LOVE for the second to pass. It would allow defenses the chance to sub, and would bring defense back into the game. I hope they adopt this one, and that it leads to that number getting down to 27 or 26 seconds in the future. 
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:42 PM (permalink)
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Of course you would love #2 because you hate the no-huddle spread. I think a mandatory waiting period between plays is ridiculous. If a team is down say 28 in the 3rd it would kill their chances to get back in the game because they have to burn time during this mandatory waiting period. Next you are gonna tell me that in basketball no team should be able to shoot until there are 15 seconds left on the shot clock so opposing teams have a chance to set their defense.
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Wednesday, February 12, 2014 10:02 PM (permalink)
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I could be on board somewhat with a minimum snap time, but it would have to be very short period of time.
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:11 PM (permalink)
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If a team is down say 28 in the 3rd it would kill their chances to get back in the game because they have to burn time during this mandatory waiting period.


You know it will happen, too...an offense is going to be in hurry up down 3 scores in the 3rd quarter and going to have to wait to snap the ball until the defense is ready...coaches are going to go bananas if this rule gets passed as it's stated in this article.

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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:41 AM (permalink)
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Might as well call it the Nick Saban/Brett Bielema rule considering they've bitched and moaned about it the most (usually right after they' em been lit up by stone no huddle team). It is an absurd proposal. Why even have a 40 second clock if teams can't use all of it, just start the thing at 29 seconds since that is apparently what matters. The absurdity of having a team stand around waiting for the clock to hit 29 when they are ready to go is unbelievable.

I'm fine with allowing the defense time to substitute when the offense has made substitutions but outside of that it should be all systems go. What a ridiculous notion, we have trouble stopping something so let's change the rules to make easier for one style of team.
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:44 AM (permalink)
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LOL.....they would be flagged and assessed a 5 yard penalty.  So essentially they would get a delay of game penalty for going to fast.
 
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:46 AM (permalink)
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Might as well call it the Nick Saban/Brett Bielema rule considering they've bitched and moaned about it the most (usually right after they' em been lit up by stone no huddle team). It is an absurd proposal. Why even have a 40 second clock if teams can't use all of it, just start the thing at 29 seconds since that is apparently what matters. The absurdity of having a team stand around waiting for the clock to hit 29 when they are ready to go is unbelievable.

I'm fine with allowing the defense time to substitute when the offense has made substitutions but outside of that it should be all systems go. What a ridiculous notion, we have trouble stopping something so let's change the rules to make easier for one style of team.

+1,000,000    This has Sabans fingerprints all over it! What a scared little boy he is inside, huh?
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:25 AM (permalink)
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Why shouldn't the defense be allowed to sub when they want to? Why should the defense only be allowed to sub when the offense chooses to sub? Both trams shoukd be given the chance to sub after every single play. That's what this rule will do. And now defenses won't be gassed and we should see scores come down from the 75-70 games we have been seeing.
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:37 AM (permalink)
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They can sub whenever they want to. And if the fatties can make it off the field before the ball is snapped they won't be penalized. This is akin to telling a basketball team they have limits on fast breaks and how much they can press the other team.

If a team wants to play fast that should be their right and it's up to the opposing team to come up with ways to prepare and stop them. Not, oh let's change the rules so it's easier for us.
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:21 AM (permalink)
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“It’s ridiculous,” said Arizona’s Rich Rodriguez, who has been at the forefront of the fast football trend.

“For me it goes back to the fundamental rules of football. The offense knows where they are going and when they are going to snap the ball. That’s their advantage. The defense is allowed to move all 11 guys before the ball is snapped. That’s their advantage.”

Added Rodriguez, who coached at Michigan and West Virginia before Arizona: “What’s next? You can only have three downs? If you play that extra down you have more chance of injury.”


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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:37 AM (permalink)
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Problems with this rule
1. It penalizes teams that lack depth
2. It penalizes teams need to score in bunches to get back in games
3. It penalizes teams that play fast to take advantages of match ups
4. It slows the action of the game down...generally that is frowned upon in the sports world. (see the shot clock, play clock, arguments against instant replay in any sport...)
 
There are probably more that I cannot think of because I have been up since 6 a.m yesterday morning, but that is what I have for right now.
 
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:04 PM (permalink)
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Auburn fans are unhappy about the proposal as well
http://bamahammer.com/201...ign=Trending%20on%20FS
 
 
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:31 PM (permalink)
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It would help our D...lol

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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:12 PM (permalink)
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I actually don't think it will affect the nber of plays run. If you watch even the best teams they hardly snap it before 29 seco ds left. They hurry to the line and get set as if they are going to snap it but often times make an adjustment at the line. However, it prevents the defense from being able to sub because if they try running off the field for a sub then the other team will simply snap the ball results in an offsides penalty or a player severly out of position. By not letting the snap to go until 29 seconds it gives the defense an opportunity to sub every single down and get fresh legs on the field.

The rules have been slanted pro offense for far too long. It's about time a rule comes to help the defense a bit.

And of course RR is crying, what else is new?
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:22 PM (permalink)
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These hurry up no huddle teams rarely hold the ball long...defensive players have plenty of time to rest. Quit sissyfying the game. You want fresher legs on defense? Teach S&C coaches how to coach endurance instead of raw power.
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:03 PM (permalink)
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It's called STRATEGY. It doesn't matter whether teams actually snap the ball in the first 10 seconds, the hurry up is part of the overall offensive strategy. Finding ways to take advantage of the opposing team is at the center of game planning in every sport. Teams run fast break offenses in basketball to score as much and as quickly as possible and tire the opponent out. The whole goal is to score before the opposing defense has time to set up. Why not change the rules in basketball. I mean my god it's so unfair for teams to shoot before every player is back on defense.

Coaches of no huddle teams across the board are pissed with this idea, as well they should. It's arbitrary and directly targets one style of offense over another. How about we put in a rule that you can't play with more than one TE on the line at a time, or use a FB. Sounds fair.

Btw, anyone saying thus a about player safety is full of s**t. It has ZERO to do with player safety. It has everything to do with this:
 

“All you’re trying to do is get lined up [on defense],” Saban told ESPN.com in September. “You can’t play specialty third-down stuff. You can’t hardly scheme anything. The most important thing is to get the call so the guys can get lined up, and it’s got to be a simple call. The offense kind of knows what you’re doing." 

 
Want some cheese with that whine Nick???????

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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:09 PM (permalink)
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Hugh Freeze (who's team is the reason Saban went off on his spill last year) has some great quotes on this. LMAO!
 

Freeze also believes that allowing defenses to rotate players in and out more frequently under this rule will put offensive linemen who are a part of uptempo offenses at more risk for injury because they will potentially face fresher defensive linemen every few snaps. 

"If anything, you may be making it more dangerous for the offensive line because they're going to face 12 five-star defensive linemen from Alabama rotating every three plays," he said

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...es-blast-ncaa-proposal
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:27 PM (permalink)
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The offense ready has more advantages. For instance a ball caught simultaneously automatically goes to the offense and the pass interference rules favor the reciever. I think it's fair to allow defenses to sub when and if the offense subs. But if the offense is using the same set of players for the series then so should the defense
 
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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:45 PM (permalink)
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OK next for spread offenses, no more wr allowed past the outside hashes, because its just to far away for us to defend fairly.

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Re:NCAA Proposes 2 rule changes Thursday, February 13, 2014 2:55 PM (permalink)
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Hey BHF...how would you feel about a rule shortening the play clock by 10 seconds therefore not allowing teams to bleed as much time per snap?
 
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