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Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Friday, June 06, 2014 11:03 AM (permalink)
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But as Michigan prepares to rebuild its offensive line for next season Lewan’s graduation may be a case of addition by subtraction.
His talent may be missed, but his bad penalties and off-the-field drama won’t be.
 

 
http://bleacherreport.com...r-without-taylor-lewan
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 10:00 AM (permalink)
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Replacing star tackle Taylor Lewan, who was taken with the 11th pick in this years' NFL draft, might seem like an impossible task. But, in truth, Michigan might be better off without Lewan, whom despite having first-round NFL talent was a distraction both on and off the field.


I think the guy was a selfish prick and it spread through that team like a wildfire. Now that Lewan is gone, things should get better.

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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 10:31 AM (permalink)
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Yeah to me he was a major disappointment in his last year and was never a leader IMO.
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 11:08 AM (permalink)
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You guys are full of it. There is no way a first round draft pick was a detrement to the team last year. The sole blame lays with an offensive coordinator that was to fancy and thought he could out smart defensive coordinators. Lewan's off the field issues were no different then any other college kid would have
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 12:18 PM (permalink)
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Yes, because 3 charges of assault and involvement in an alleged rape case are issues that are "no different than any other college kid would have".  Right.  Lewan was obviously talented but he played better his junior year and when you throw in the drama, off-field issues, and stupid penalties and cheap shots, I can understand the discussion.  He was so far from what a captain should be it's stupid.  The poor play of the O line falls completely at the feet of Funk, not the OC, but I can live without the rest of the stuff.  Lewan is a punk-good luck in the NFL.
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 4:18 PM (permalink)
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If you're asking me whether I think this team will be better off without a top 15 pick protecting the blind side and replaced by a first year starter I'd say you are deceiving yourself. By all accounts Taylor Lewan was a model teammate who helped bring along the young linemen. Lewan's issues off the field had zero to do with the play of the line IMO.

I expect the line to produce better numbers this year this last, but not because Lewan is gone and I expect a MAJOR drop off in play from LT position.
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 4:41 PM (permalink)
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If you're asking me whether I think this team will be better off without a top 15 pick protecting the blind side and replaced by a first year starter I'd say you are deceiving yourself. By all accounts Taylor Lewan was a model teammate who helped bring along the young linemen. Lewan's issues off the field had zero to do with the play of the line IMO.

I expect the line to produce better numbers this year this last, but not because Lewan is gone and I expect a MAJOR drop off in play from LT position.


This couldn't be further from the truth...
 
With that being said, I agree completely with you that just because he's a bad person and poor leader doesn't mean that the line will be better off without him.
 
BTW, long time no talk. Hope everyone is doing well.
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 4:45 PM (permalink)
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If you're asking me whether I think this team will be better off without a top 15 pick protecting the blind side and replaced by a first year starter I'd say you are deceiving yourself. By all accounts Taylor Lewan was a model teammate who helped bring along the young linemen. Lewan's issues off the field had zero to do with the play of the line IMO.


That's just it, he wasn't a model teammate and could've gave 2 sh*ts about the young linemen or anyone else on the team. He had great talent; however, his body and head were never in it together. He is/was one of the least liked Wolverine players in a long time.

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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 4:52 PM (permalink)
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If you're asking me whether I think this team will be better off without a top 15 pick protecting the blind side and replaced by a first year starter I'd say you are deceiving yourself. By all accounts Taylor Lewan was a model teammate who helped bring along the young linemen. Lewan's issues off the field had zero to do with the play of the line IMO.


That's just it, he wasn't a model teammate and could've gave 2 sh*ts about the young linemen or anyone else on the team. He had great talent; however, his body and head were never in it together. He is/was one of the least liked Wolverine players in a long time.

Go Blue!!

That goes against everything his coaches and teammates said. Now maybe they were just blowing smoke but both Ben Braden and Mags said on numerous occasions that Lewan went out of his way to help them both in the off season and during spring and fall camp.
 
A knuckle head for sure, especially off the field, but I've seen or heard nothing to suggest he wasn't a great teammate as far as dealing with the younger guys.
 
To me it's akin to saying the Lions would be better off without NDamukong Suh. In some areas maybe, but ultimately when you add everything up, even with the headache the guy helps you more than he hurts. If we're bleeding off the left side of the line next year I don't see how anyone can argue we're better off.
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 4:59 PM (permalink)
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If you're asking me whether I think this team will be better off without a top 15 pick protecting the blind side and replaced by a first year starter I'd say you are deceiving yourself. By all accounts Taylor Lewan was a model teammate who helped bring along the young linemen. Lewan's issues off the field had zero to do with the play of the line IMO.


That's just it, he wasn't a model teammate and could've gave 2 sh*ts about the young linemen or anyone else on the team. He had great talent; however, his body and head were never in it together. He is/was one of the least liked Wolverine players in a long time.

Go Blue!!

That goes against everything his coaches and teammates said. Now maybe they were just blowing smoke but both Ben Braden and Mags said on numerous occasions that Lewan went out of his way to help them both in the off season and during spring and fall camp.

A knuckle head for sure, especially off the field, but I've seen or heard nothing to suggest he wasn't a great teammate as far as dealing with the younger guys.

To me it's akin to saying the Lions would be better off without NDamukong Suh. In some areas maybe, but ultimately when you add everything up, even with the headache the guy helps you more than he hurts. If we're bleeding off the left side of the line next year I don't see how anyone can argue we're better off.

 
The coaches were blowing smoke (especially Hoke).

 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 6:25 PM (permalink)
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If you're asking me whether I think this team will be better off without a top 15 pick protecting the blind side and replaced by a first year starter I'd say you are deceiving yourself. By all accounts Taylor Lewan was a model teammate who helped bring along the young linemen. Lewan's issues off the field had zero to do with the play of the line IMO.

I expect the line to produce better numbers this year this last, but not because Lewan is gone and I expect a MAJOR drop off in play from LT position.


This couldn't be further from the truth...

With that being said, I agree completely with you that just because he's a bad person and poor leader doesn't mean that the line will be better off without him.

BTW, long time no talk. Hope everyone is doing well.


Good to have you back and I see you're starting right where you left off, arguing with MichFan...haha

Hope all is well...

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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 6:40 PM (permalink)
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If you're asking me whether I think this team will be better off without a top 15 pick protecting the blind side and replaced by a first year starter I'd say you are deceiving yourself. By all accounts Taylor Lewan was a model teammate who helped bring along the young linemen. Lewan's issues off the field had zero to do with the play of the line IMO.


That's just it, he wasn't a model teammate and could've gave 2 sh*ts about the young linemen or anyone else on the team. He had great talent; however, his body and head were never in it together. He is/was one of the least liked Wolverine players in a long time.

Go Blue!!

That goes against everything his coaches and teammates said. Now maybe they were just blowing smoke but both Ben Braden and Mags said on numerous occasions that Lewan went out of his way to help them both in the off season and during spring and fall camp.

A knuckle head for sure, especially off the field, but I've seen or heard nothing to suggest he wasn't a great teammate as far as dealing with the younger guys.

To me it's akin to saying the Lions would be better off without NDamukong Suh. In some areas maybe, but ultimately when you add everything up, even with the headache the guy helps you more than he hurts. If we're bleeding off the left side of the line next year I don't see how anyone can argue we're better off.


In the Lions thread, you said the Lions should let Suh walk...haha

Regarding our OL, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. I'm not going to pin all our OL problems on Lewan, but we struggled mightily with cohesiveness and leadership last year and Lewan was a big reason why. Sometimes it just doesn't work and that's okay. Guys will hopefully be bigger, stronger, smarter and willing to trust each other this season. Fundamentally, that need to dramatically improve too.

Side note...I have no stats to back this up or done any research, but I would be curious to see where all our sacks and pressures came from and why? I'm guessing the majority came from up the gut or right side, but was that because Lewan didn't allow anyone to get past him or because everyone but him was a SIV so teams attacked our interior and right sides more and Lewan didn't face as much pressure. I don't know, I was just thinking about it today.

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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Sunday, June 08, 2014 7:32 PM (permalink)
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As much as I would love to pin this on that jack*ss of an OC we just got rid of, this is obviously a Funk problem. Until he is replaced, I expect minimal improvements at best. I wouldnt be surprised if we see another year of decline.
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Monday, June 09, 2014 8:38 AM (permalink)
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I`m for TRADING Suh for financial reasons, I would never just let him walk. Same with Lewan, he has more value on the team than off it.
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In the Lions thread, you said the Lions should let Suh walk...haha

Regarding our OL, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. I'm not going to pin all our OL problems on Lewan, but we struggled mightily with cohesiveness and leadership last year and Lewan was a big reason why. Sometimes it just doesn't work and that's okay. Guys will hopefully be bigger, stronger, smarter and willing to trust each other this season. Fundamentally, that need to dramatically improve too.

Side note...I have no stats to back this up or done any research, but I would be curious to see where all our sacks and pressures came from and why? I'm guessing the majority came from up the gut or right side, but was that because Lewan didn't allow anyone to get past him or because everyone but him was a SIV so teams attacked our interior and right sides more and Lewan didn't face as much pressure. I don't know, I was just thinking about it today.

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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Monday, June 09, 2014 10:35 AM (permalink)
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I sat in the first row behind the bench for the game at Iowa, and that told me all I needed to know about Taylor Lewan. He was not a leader. He spent 90% of his time on the stationary bike as soon as he got off of the field. The game was slipping away in the second half and everyone was just standing there around the heater watching it happen. No talk on the sidelines- no strategizing....just a bunch of guys standing and watching us slowly lose the game. We had a young team that could have used a lead voice to rally the troops, and we had none.
 
I for one am happy to see Lewan go. My greater concern is that this team needs to find a bonding voice...a leader that isn't a coach. I certainly didn't see one last season. This group is still young and could use someone with some fire and leadership skills.  If we don't get someone to get this group together, I fear we may have more of the same this year.
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Monday, June 09, 2014 10:48 AM (permalink)
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Criticize Lewan all you want about lack of leadership, but this entire team has lacked leadership since about 06ish.

And I for one would much rather see our QB be the vocal leader. Is it so hard to find a QB that is cocky as hell and believes in his ability. I mean geez. We have had quiet QB's for a long time. Look at the last few heisman trophy winners, or qb's on great teams. Guys with a ton of confidence.
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Monday, June 09, 2014 11:04 AM (permalink)
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Gardner gave me a ton of hope in regards to leadership in the OSU game. When Kalis had the false start he got his ass chewed by Gardner, followed by a pat on the butt. A good leader expects his teammates to perform to their ability and you could tell Gardner expected more from Kalis and he showed it. 
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:02 AM (permalink)
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http://www.mlive.com/wolv...says_devin_gardne.html
 
I maybe reading this wrong, but does it seem that Lewan is not thrilled with Gardner's leadership skills?
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:38 AM (permalink)
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http://www.mlive.com/wolv...says_devin_gardne.html

I maybe reading this wrong, but does it seem that Lewan is not thrilled with Gardner's leadership skills?

Always an interesting dynamic between a QB and LT. Denard and Taylor had a great relationship, there have been rumblings for some time about DG and Lewan, yet it sounds like Morris and Lewan had a good relationship. Haven't heard as much about it since he got to Michigan, but one of qualities people talked about the most regarding DG was his leadership and the fact that other guys seemed to gravitate around him (the same goes for Shane Morris).
 
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Re:Michigan Football: Offensive Line Better Without Taylor Lewan? Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:37 AM (permalink)
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My guess is DG saw Lewan for what he is, a complete tool.  Great lineman and he will be missed this year for sure.
 
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