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Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Friday, May 11, 2012 10:11 PM (permalink)
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Michigan president Mary Sue Coleman told a Flint crowd today that the school should not have hired former football coach Rich Rodriguez in December 2007, according to the Flint Journal.

While Rodriguez’s three-year tenure was a problem in many areas, including five major NCAA violations and a 15-22 overall record, it is extremely rare for Coleman to speak on athletics issues, usually referring queries to athletic director Dave Brandon.

She told the crowd of members of the Rotary Club of Flint: “We thought, OK, well let’s go hire the guy who invented the spread offense. He was a hot young coach with a different approach.”

 
I can't believe she's bringing this up now...
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:24 AM (permalink)
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I thought I had already heard her say those same exact word a year ago...maybe not. No surprise though...a monkey could tell a crowd of people our previous staff was wrong and a bad hire.

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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:14 PM (permalink)
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Is this woman nuts?  My god, LET IT GO ALREADY.  Of course, in classic Freep style there isn't any actual quotes from Coleman in this article.  It's the old 'it was reported' since nobody from the Freep was actually there.  They're as dumb as she is-perfect pair.

 
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:36 PM (permalink)
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While I totally agree, I question the timing & wonder if she would've commented had Brady Hoke not had such a fantastic debut 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Saturday, May 12, 2012 9:05 PM (permalink)
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Hind sight is 20/20.
Good luck RR! Go Hoke! Go Blue!
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:05 PM (permalink)
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Isn't Mr. Ed, Dead?
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:20 AM (permalink)
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Isn't Mr. Ed, Dead?

I am afraid the Rich Rod era will live for ever, being neither side can let go.
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:19 AM (permalink)
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Isn't Mr. Ed, Dead?

I am afraid the Rich Rod era will live for ever, being neither side can let go.

I have, and I was one of (if not the) biggest supporters of RR on this board. The biggest reason it's not being let go is the press followed closely by RR and Michigan faculty having no idea how to use the phrase "we've moved on, next question" when asked by said media.
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:48 AM (permalink)
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I think her comment is pretty silly at this point. Def, as others have said, hindsight is 20/20. In "three & out" it was said that RR told them, 3 times, that his systems takes time to implement, yet they still hired him. I wonder in hindsight if she would have given RR a bigger budget to bring in his D coordinator who had just won coordinator of the year nationally.
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:52 AM (permalink)
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I think her comment is pretty silly at this point. Def, as others have said, hindsight is 20/20. In "three & out" it was said that RR told them, 3 times, that his systems takes time to implement, yet they still hired him. I wonder in hindsight if she would have given RR a bigger budget to bring in his D coordinator who had just won coordinator of the year nationally.

 
I think it's obvious.  She had no problem forking out 3/4 of a million dollars a year for Greg Mattison.  And I highly doubt Rich was asking that much to cover compensation for Casteel's services.  She can say he was a bad hire all she wants, but the blame falls equally on her for his failure. 
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:42 PM (permalink)
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I think her comment is pretty silly at this point. Def, as others have said, hindsight is 20/20. In "three & out" it was said that RR told them, 3 times, that his systems takes time to implement, yet they still hired him. I wonder in hindsight if she would have given RR a bigger budget to bring in his D coordinator who had just won coordinator of the year nationally.


I think it's obvious.  She had no problem forking out 3/4 of a million dollars a year for Greg Mattison.  And I highly doubt Rich was asking that much to cover compensation for Casteel's services.  She can say he was a bad hire all she wants, but the blame falls equally on her for his failure. 


Equally?!?!
 
How many games did MSC coach from 2008-2010? How many players did she recruit? How many plays did she call?
 
Rich Rod was hired to do a job. He did not succeed at his job so he was fired. End of story.
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:01 PM (permalink)
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I think her comment is pretty silly at this point. Def, as others have said, hindsight is 20/20. In "three & out" it was said that RR told them, 3 times, that his systems takes time to implement, yet they still hired him. I wonder in hindsight if she would have given RR a bigger budget to bring in his D coordinator who had just won coordinator of the year nationally.


I think it's obvious.  She had no problem forking out 3/4 of a million dollars a year for Greg Mattison.  And I highly doubt Rich was asking that much to cover compensation for Casteel's services.  She can say he was a bad hire all she wants, but the blame falls equally on her for his failure. 


Equally?!?!

How many games did MSC coach from 2008-2010? How many players did she recruit? How many plays did she call?

Rich Rod was hired to do a job. He did not succeed at his job so he was fired. End of story.

Go Blue!!


 
I honestly don't care enough anymore to have this argument with you.  With the success on defense that we've had both in recruiting and on the field the last 17 months, how can you even argue this?  Who's to say that Hoke would be this successful without Mattison?  RR wasn't given the luxury to bring in his D coordinator of choice.  Defense, which was his ultimate downfall in the end.  Are you really going to sit there and say she isn't partially to blame for the whole debacle?  I may have been a little overzealous when I said she should get equal blame, but aside from that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, and I'm done with it.
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:14 PM (permalink)
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Wow Scottsdale-did you just get your ass slapped red?    Doh!

 
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:32 PM (permalink)
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I think her comment is pretty silly at this point. Def, as others have said, hindsight is 20/20. In "three & out" it was said that RR told them, 3 times, that his systems takes time to implement, yet they still hired him. I wonder in hindsight if she would have given RR a bigger budget to bring in his D coordinator who had just won coordinator of the year nationally.


I think it's obvious.  She had no problem forking out 3/4 of a million dollars a year for Greg Mattison.  And I highly doubt Rich was asking that much to cover compensation for Casteel's services.  She can say he was a bad hire all she wants, but the blame falls equally on her for his failure. 


Equally?!?!

How many games did MSC coach from 2008-2010? How many players did she recruit? How many plays did she call?

Rich Rod was hired to do a job. He did not succeed at his job so he was fired. End of story.

Go Blue!!



I honestly don't care enough anymore to have this argument with you.  With the success on defense that we've had both in recruiting and on the field the last 17 months, how can you even argue this?  Who's to say that Hoke would be this successful without Mattison?  RR wasn't given the luxury to bring in his D coordinator of choice.  Defense, which was his ultimate downfall in the end.  Are you really going to sit there and say she isn't partially to blame for the whole debacle?  I may have been a little overzealous when I said she should get equal blame, but aside from that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, and I'm done with it.


I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm arguing because you made an asinine comment that you yourself said was *overzealous.* That's what I was arguing.
 
Since you don't care enough anymore, I guess this argument is done.
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:37 PM (permalink)
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I think her comment is pretty silly at this point. Def, as others have said, hindsight is 20/20. In "three & out" it was said that RR told them, 3 times, that his systems takes time to implement, yet they still hired him. I wonder in hindsight if she would have given RR a bigger budget to bring in his D coordinator who had just won coordinator of the year nationally.


I think it's obvious.  She had no problem forking out 3/4 of a million dollars a year for Greg Mattison.  And I highly doubt Rich was asking that much to cover compensation for Casteel's services.  She can say he was a bad hire all she wants, but the blame falls equally on her for his failure. 


Equally?!?!

How many games did MSC coach from 2008-2010? How many players did she recruit? How many plays did she call?

Rich Rod was hired to do a job. He did not succeed at his job so he was fired. End of story.

Go Blue!!



I honestly don't care enough anymore to have this argument with you.  With the success on defense that we've had both in recruiting and on the field the last 17 months, how can you even argue this?  Who's to say that Hoke would be this successful without Mattison?  RR wasn't given the luxury to bring in his D coordinator of choice.  Defense, which was his ultimate downfall in the end.  Are you really going to sit there and say she isn't partially to blame for the whole debacle?  I may have been a little overzealous when I said she should get equal blame, but aside from that, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, and I'm done with it.

 
You have got to be kidding me. Yeah, like RR-or any Michigan coach-goes to MSC for a bigger budget for their coaches. That's what the Athletic Director is for. 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:35 AM (permalink)
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this is the saga that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends, some people made a hire not knowing who he was, and they'll continue bitching about it forever just because, this is the saga that never ends....
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:39 AM (permalink)
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Since we're playing the blame game, MSC can thank herself since she's the one that ultimately hired Rod.  Brandon bumbled his way through the coaching search as well but at least Hoke has made him look like the smartest guy on the block.  Rod couldn't make ANYBODY look smart, least of all MSC and Bill Martin.

 
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Saturday, June 09, 2012 3:41 PM (permalink)
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Rodriguez denies 'Bama, will return to Morgantown
Updated: December 12, 2006, 1:28 AM ET
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MORGANTOWN, W.Va. -- West Virginia coach Rich Rodriguez turned down Alabama on Friday, telling his players that he'll be back for his sixth season with the Mountaineers.
 
A loud applause could be heard from inside the Milan Puskar Center at Mountaineer Field after Rodriguez told his team he would be staying at his alma mater.
 
"Obviously I'm very excited to stay here and I plan on being here a long time," Rodriguez said later at a news conference. "We've done some pretty good things over the last five years or so. We're not done yet. We're going to continue to grow."
 
Rodriguez will receive a two-year contract extension through the 2014 season from West Virginia. While other details of the deal were not immediately released, a source with knowledge of the negotiation told ESPN.com's Ivan Maisel that Rodriguez took approximately $1.75 million per year to remain in Morgantown. Part of that agreement was a clause to build a new academic center and locker room by a set period of time, otherwise the contract would be voided.
 
"There weren't many reasons not to go. It's all about the reasons for staying," Rodriguez said. "I'm biased, this is my school. I think it's a great place to raise a family. We've always had a great athletic tradition."
Alabama officials offered the job to Rodriguez on Thursday morning, but the answer didn't come until more than 24 hours later. Alabama reportedly offered Rodriguez a $12 million, six-year contract.
 
"I fully respect his decision and wish him the best," Alabama athletic director Mal Moore said in a statement. "I want to remind everyone of what I said at the outset of this process: my only objective is to get the best person available to lead the Alabama football program.
 
"I remain determined to bring to our program a proven head coach with impressive credentials."
It was reported by ESPN Thursday night that Alabama officials had reached an agreement with Rodriguez for him to become the Crimson Tide's next head football coach. That report proved to be incorrect.
 
Stephen P. Goodwin, chairman of the WVU Board of Governors, said the university was never trying to compete with Alabama.
 
"We tried to make Rich the best offer WVU could make to keep him continuing on as a football coach. We didn't get into a bidding match. We couldn't have won that war," he said.
 
Efforts to keep Rodriguez reached as far as Ken Kendrick, a WVU graduate and managing general partner of baseball's Arizona Diamondbacks. He earlier donated about $200,000 toward construction of a hall dedicated to the history of Mountaineer football.
 
"I negotiate with athletes and their agents," Kendrick said. "Maybe I lent some help" getting a competitive offer on the table.
 
Rodriguez has built West Virginia into a Big East power, winning the Sugar Bowl after the 2005 season and a share of three straight league titles. The Mountaineers are 10-2 and will play Georgia Tech in the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville, Fla., on Jan. 1.
 
"I am very happy for the Rodriguez family, our players, our fans and WVU. Together we will remain committed to a competitive football program," athletic director Ed Pastilong said.
 
In June, Rodriguez signed a seven-year contract that pays him $1 million this year with $50,000 annual raises after that, and $600,000 in deferred compensation in December 2011 if he remained as coach.
 
"The program deserves a coach with the work ethic and innovative skill of Rich Rodriguez," West Virginia president David Hardesty.
 
Alabama fired Mike Shula on Nov. 26 after the Tide went 6-6 in his fourth season and lost its fifth consecutive meeting with rival Auburn.
 
The Tide had also made overtures to South Carolina's Steve Spurrier and Nick Saban of the Miami Dolphins, but both high-profile coaches opted to stay put.
 
Then, Alabama's attention turned squarely to Rodriguez, who had both the offensive pedigree and the track record for winning the Tide wanted.
 
It wasn't clear who the Tide will turn to now, though the university's original wish list also included Navy's Paul Johnson, Wake Forest's Jim Grobe and possibly California's Jeff Tedford.
 
There have been no confirmed interviews with any of them.
 
The once-mighty program is again left Crimson in the face in another coaching search. The Tide is seeking its fifth coach since Gene Stallings stepped down in 1996. Stallings is the only coach to manage sustained success since Bear Bryant's retirement after the 1982 season.
 
ESPN.com senior writer Ivan Maisel contributed to this report. Information from The Associated Press was also used.
 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Monday, June 11, 2012 4:54 PM (permalink)
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Since we're playing the blame game, MSC can thank herself since she's the one that ultimately hired Rod.  Brandon bumbled his way through the coaching search as well but at least Hoke has made him look like the smartest guy on the block.  Rod couldn't make ANYBODY look smart, least of all MSC and Bill Martin.

 
Keep saying that, maybe someone will believe you. 
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Re:Mary Sue Coleman: We shouldn't have hired Rich Rodriguez as football coach Monday, June 11, 2012 5:26 PM (permalink)
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Since we're playing the blame game, MSC can thank herself since she's the one that ultimately hired Rod.  Brandon bumbled his way through the coaching search as well but at least Hoke has made him look like the smartest guy on the block.  Rod couldn't make ANYBODY look smart, least of all MSC and Bill Martin.


Keep saying that, maybe someone will believe you. 

Would you call it smooth, quick, or easy? It was no walk in the part. From the delay in firing RR up through the flirtation with Miles.
 
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