Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems

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Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:23 PM (permalink)
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:28 PM (permalink)
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Sounds like a good location for some ncaa "random drug tests"..... just sayin.
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:46 PM (permalink)
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:09 PM (permalink)
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Iowa official says Iowa will learn from hospitalizations  
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/14604106/iowa-official-says-iowa-will-learn-from-hospitalizations
 
Workouts described as "routine."
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:10 PM (permalink)
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Iowa official says Iowa will learn from hospitalizations  
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/14604106/iowa-official-says-iowa-will-learn-from-hospitalizations

Workouts described as "routine."

 
As far as the NCAA is concerned, they could probably care less unless another "practice-gate" is proven. As for these kids, I hope they're ok. The other thing they need to worry about is MRSA, a deadly staph infection, which can be develop as a result of other infections, especially in hospitals. It seems rampant nowadays.
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:37 PM (permalink)
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MRSA is becoming the norm unfortunately, bunch of winey baby adults scream for antibiotics for their flu symptoms and other viral ailments. So thank all those people for that!
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:29 PM (permalink)
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Rumor has it this was after a workout where the players are required to do 100 squats. Ouch.
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Friday, January 28, 2011 1:30 AM (permalink)
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read an update on players this morning... reporter had spoken to one of the players relatives (didn't specify whom) they said all players remain in the hospital and that the players whose relative they talked to questioned whether he would return to iowa next season. this is a very serious situation and i hope that all the players reach a full recovery quickly and don't suffer any long term effects!
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Friday, January 28, 2011 8:54 AM (permalink)
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If it was one player it is a accident but 13 is not an accident something is going on there and it is not routine.
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Friday, January 28, 2011 11:01 AM (permalink)
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Funny how things like this go on without the NCAA so much as inquiring about it, but yet we fail to file a few papers and misinterprety the rules regarding stretching as countable practice hours and the NCAA launches a full blown investigation?!  Yeah, the NCAA sure has their priorities stratigh when it comes to looking after the health and well-being of their student athletes...

 

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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Friday, January 28, 2011 11:41 AM (permalink)
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Funny how things like this go on without the NCAA so much as inquiring about it, but yet we fail to file a few papers and misinterprety the rules regarding stretching as countable practice hours and the NCAA launches a full blown investigation?!  Yeah, the NCAA sure has their priorities stratigh when it comes to looking after the health and well-being of their student athletes...

 
Why isn't the Detroit media all over Ferentz for endagering his players health the way they were all over RR for endagering his players during practice-gate?

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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Friday, January 28, 2011 1:30 PM (permalink)
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+1,000 for Matty!!!! Unreal, huh?
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Friday, January 28, 2011 5:05 PM (permalink)
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Funny how things like this go on without the NCAA so much as inquiring about it, but yet we fail to file a few papers and misinterprety the rules regarding stretching as countable practice hours and the NCAA launches a full blown investigation?!  Yeah, the NCAA sure has their priorities stratigh when it comes to looking after the health and well-being of their student athletes...


Why isn't the Detroit media all over Ferentz for endagering his players health the way they were all over RR for endagering his players during practice-gate?

Because it's the Detroit media. They don't cover Iowa. 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Friday, January 28, 2011 9:12 PM (permalink)
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Funny how things like this go on without the NCAA so much as inquiring about it, but yet we fail to file a few papers and misinterprety the rules regarding stretching as countable practice hours and the NCAA launches a full blown investigation?!  Yeah, the NCAA sure has their priorities stratigh when it comes to looking after the health and well-being of their student athletes...

 
Oh come on Matty, we all know that if they sell their bed pans that would be much worse.. ;)
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:58 AM (permalink)
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MattyGoBlue!


Funny how things like this go on without the NCAA so much as inquiring about it, but yet we fail to file a few papers and misinterprety the rules regarding stretching as countable practice hours and the NCAA launches a full blown investigation?!  Yeah, the NCAA sure has their priorities stratigh when it comes to looking after the health and well-being of their student athletes...


Oh come on Matty, we all know that if they sell their bed pans that would be much worse.. ;)

 
LOL!  Good one Buckeye!

 

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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Monday, January 31, 2011 10:59 AM (permalink)
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=6069090
 


“Even if Ferentz is absolved of any responsibility in this matter, his absence and silence during a troubling week at Iowa should tell recruits and their families plenty about how much he cares for his players,” Forde wrote.

 
Scalding article....
 


Fortunately for everyone involved in the Iowa situation, the injuries do not appear to be immediately life-threatening -- yet the players have been in the hospital all week. And consistently positive reports about their conditions might be misleading, according to the family member I spoke with.
 
"Some of these guys are in really bad shape," he said Thursday, relating stories of poor kidney function, significant weight gain, extremely abnormal test levels and players in lingering pain.
 
"This seems like it was clearly a punitive-type workout after a disappointing season," the family member said, adding that some of the players kept pushing themselves to avoid being labeled a quitter or soft.
 
A family member of one player, who requested anonymity for fear of reprisal by the coaches against his relative, said Iowa's strength coaches not only put the players through physical hell embarking upon their winter conditioning regimen, they all but dared them to quit.
 
"Who really wants to be here and who doesn't," was a phrase used, according to the family member's conversations with his relative.
 
"Who's tough and who's not," was another.

 
As the article says, football has always teetered that fine line of crazy and pushing players to the next level.
 


In various media reports, outside doctors, former Iowa players and others in the strength and conditioning field have raised the question of whether the afflicted Hawkeyes in any way brought this ailment upon themselves. Speculation has centered on what the players might have done Saturday or Sunday that led to the mass hospitalization on Monday.
 
Among the theories that have been suggested: a weekend of partying that could exacerbate dehydration and kidney issues; ingestion of a supplement; or additional exercise such as pickup basketball games.
 
The players tested negative this week for illegal drugs, according to the family member I spoke to. If drinking over the weekend was a contributing factor, my response is this: Like it or not, that's normal college behavior. If it lands you in the hospital, then the workouts that preceded the drinking were abnormal.
 
One former player suggested to The Sporting News that the current Hawkeyes might have chosen partying over "recovering and resting like they should have been doing." If workouts in January necessitate a weekend of lying on the couch to recover, something is out of whack. Football players are expected to be exceptionally devoted to their sport, but does that really have to include inhibiting their free time in late January to recover from a workout?

 
I played college football in the 90s before facebook and twitter and cell phone pictures and social media (lord knows the coaches would have NEVER been able to get away with that stuff today).  Football is a tough ass game that requires you getting your ass kicked day in and day out.  Mentally and physically.  Like I said earlier, I know the coaches crossed the line many times, but NEVER, NEVER did we think to complain to our parents (hell, my dad would have called me a p*ssy and told me to suck it up AND I WAS A QB ).  Guys got sick, guys threw up, guys were dehydrated, guys partied on the weekends and got lit up like xmas trees, but we no one ever was hospitalized.  That's where this story is so strange.  I can't remember a time when this many players from ONE team were hospitalized after a workout.  It had to be a combination of lots of things and I don't know who to blame.  I, for one, am VERY curious to know what they were doing in the workouts for them to be so tough.  Also, Ferentz is expected to speak out this situation on Wednesday during signing day.
 
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Ohio St.'s actions are not unlike their lower intestine: stinky and loaded with danger.

 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Monday, January 31, 2011 12:09 PM (permalink)
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I too played football in the 90's (nothing after HS). You took the job as QB back then as knowing you were going to get your head taken off at every opprotunity, and you were also going to get hit unmercifully hard. Now a days, its, all, "ohh,  dont hit the qb like that, dont slam him into the ground, dont tackle him if he slides".......I say, if you play qb, expect all of the above! Thats why nobody wanted to play qb back when I was playing.  (including myself)....I know this is off topic, but last post struck a nerve about football and toughness..
 
But to punish kids by causing permanent kidney damage, is not cool. I dont care how much they drank the night before. This could take 10-20yrs off the kids life expectency, and god forbid if any of the kids need dialysis after this mess. My thoughts and prayers to all the kids in the hospital, that DID NOTHING TO DESERVE THIS!
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Monday, January 31, 2011 1:29 PM (permalink)
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I've been involved in multiple workouts where guys got dehydrated and had to go to the hospital, I've never seen anything close to 13 players requiring a trip to the hospital. I've never heard of kidney's shutting down or week long stays in the hospital. Iowa can spend their "routine workout" line all they want to, I`m calling BS.
 
Routine workouts don't send 13 guys to the hospital for a week. 
 
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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Monday, January 31, 2011 1:51 PM (permalink)
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I've been involved in multiple workouts where guys got dehydrated and had to go to the hospital, I've never seen anything close to 13 players requiring a trip to the hospital. I've never heard of kidney's shutting down or week long stays in the hospital. Iowa can spend their "routine workout" line all they want to, I`m calling BS.

Routine workouts don't send 13 guys to the hospital for a week. 

Agreed!  And to add to it, Iowa trying to further spin this by placing blame on the athletes in the hospital saying they were out drinking and partying which led to their kidneys shutting down is complete BS as well.  We're talking about college kids here.  Partying is a way of life for most in college whether you are an athlete or not.  I can't remember how many times I went to morning swim practice still drunk from heavy partying the night before.  I never had to go to the hopsital for kidney failure...

 

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Re:Iowa works its players until they have kidney problems Monday, January 31, 2011 7:02 PM (permalink)
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“Even if Ferentz is absolved of any responsibility in this matter, his absence and silence during a troubling week at Iowa should tell recruits and their families plenty about how much he cares for his players,” Forde wrote.


This may or may not be true. 
 
Fox sports said:
 
" Ferentz called his players from the road and was due back on campus Thursday (Jan. 27) night to visit with them personally."
 
 
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