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In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:38 AM
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Hurry is all over, spread is all over, bubble screens all over, now the zone read. Only instead of incomplete, highly flawed athletes trying to run them, we have the best athletes in the world. The divisional round produced three spectacular football games, plus a fourth contest, more like a coaching clinic, in which the Patriots once again methodically demonstrated they are the best team of the past decade. And the divisional round produced a message -- that college football is taking over the NFL. http://espn.go.com/espn/p...l-exposing-nfl-tactics
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:59 AM
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But it will never work in the B1G, how could it work in the pros?
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:23 PM
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There is also the fact that this is all relatively new to the NFL. You have the best defensive minds coaching the best defensive athletes and I would bet it's only a matter of time before the defenses figure out how to stop it...
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:29 PM
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They can plan to stop it Matty, I think its just the pace of the snaps is to quick for solid adjustments. But, in the coming seasons, I agree most DC's and staff can counter this by adding more sideline call signaling, and defensive captains on the field making quicker, more efficient calls too. One suggestion I would make to NFL DC's is, why not train your defense, like they were running a "speed offense"......Make it to were the defensive players were capable of being ready for snaps at the 20-25 second mark, every play......That would make it more natural feeling for them. I dunno, sounded good in my head....before I typed it. lol
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:53 PM
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Its an offense that is going to get your QB killed too.... maybe you get lucky a year or maybe two... but unlike college your franchise QB is suppose to last more then 2-3 years. You have to wonder if Washington will ever see the best of there draft pick again now. Same has to be said about San Fran, how long can he keep playing when he's running down the field so much... Just think the NFL def is so much bigger and stronger then college that its not something you can hang your hat on for years on end.
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:36 PM
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crosscountry89 Its an offense that is going to get your QB killed too.... maybe you get lucky a year or maybe two... but unlike college your franchise QB is suppose to last more then 2-3 years. You have to wonder if Washington will ever see the best of there draft pick again now. Same has to be said about San Fran, how long can he keep playing when he's running down the field so much... Just think the NFL def is so much bigger and stronger then college that its not something you can hang your hat on for years on end. As long as Kaepernick is getting a game total 178 rushing yards before taking a hit from the defense he will be just fine! Yep thats right, he only got 3 yards after first contact. GO BLUE!
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:39 PM
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UMWolverine5 But it will never work in the B1G, how could it work in the pros? Thus far it has failed in the B1G! GO BLUE
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:31 PM
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Edub4Blue UMWolverine5 But it will never work in the B1G, how could it work in the pros? Thus far it has failed in the B1G! GO BLUE Tell that to these guys
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:14 AM
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Edub4Blue UMWolverine5 But it will never work in the B1G, how could it work in the pros? Thus far it has failed in the B1G! GO BLUE Ohio State and Northwestern had successful years this season as well as us and Nebraska who run a more mixed option offense. In fact the options teams out performed the more traditional teams. You had Wisconsin (who only won the Big 10 by default) and Penn State that were both okay, but nothing spectacular. Minnesota under the spread looked a lot better than normal.
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:33 AM
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And yet Alabama made the college football world look silly with their traditional offense. The spread option will have a very short lived NFL life. Remember the wild cat offense? Remember how great that was? Remember how it was going to change the NFL forever? Where is the wild cat now? Dead. The spread option will go the same way in the NFL, and like mentioned already it is a great way to get your franchise player killed.
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:43 AM
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BigHouseFootball And yet Alabama made the college football world look silly with their traditional offense. The spread option will have a very short lived NFL life. Remember the wild cat offense? Remember how great that was? Remember how it was going to change the NFL forever? Where is the wild cat now? Dead. The spread option will go the same way in the NFL, and like mentioned already it is a great way to get your franchise player killed. Only team to beat Bama this year....spread team.
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:31 AM
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BigHouseFootball And yet Alabama made the college football world look silly with their traditional offense. The spread option will have a very short lived NFL life. Remember the wild cat offense? Remember how great that was? Remember how it was going to change the NFL forever? Where is the wild cat now? Dead. The spread option will go the same way in the NFL, and like mentioned already it is a great way to get your franchise player killed. Who exactly was saying that? Side note, why are you so threatened by the spread option? Embrace diversity!
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:34 AM
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Maize927 BigHouseFootball And yet Alabama made the college football world look silly with their traditional offense. The spread option will have a very short lived NFL life. Remember the wild cat offense? Remember how great that was? Remember how it was going to change the NFL forever? Where is the wild cat now? Dead. The spread option will go the same way in the NFL, and like mentioned already it is a great way to get your franchise player killed. Only team to beat Bama this year....spread team. Hush you! This never happened
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:38 AM
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MichFan4Life Maize927 BigHouseFootball And yet Alabama made the college football world look silly with their traditional offense. The spread option will have a very short lived NFL life. Remember the wild cat offense? Remember how great that was? Remember how it was going to change the NFL forever? Where is the wild cat now? Dead. The spread option will go the same way in the NFL, and like mentioned already it is a great way to get your franchise player killed. Only team to beat Bama this year....spread team. Hush you! This never happened Come to think about it, almost all the teams Bama has lost to once he got the ball rolling there have been spread teams. Florida, Auburn, A&M, Utah....
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Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:40 AM
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:41 AM
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Maize927 MichFan4Life Maize927 BigHouseFootball And yet Alabama made the college football world look silly with their traditional offense. The spread option will have a very short lived NFL life. Remember the wild cat offense? Remember how great that was? Remember how it was going to change the NFL forever? Where is the wild cat now? Dead. The spread option will go the same way in the NFL, and like mentioned already it is a great way to get your franchise player killed. Only team to beat Bama this year....spread team. Hush you! This never happened Come to think about it, almost all the teams Bama has lost to once he got the ball rolling there have been spread teams. Florida, Auburn, A&M, Utah.... Only LSU has beaten Alabama since 2008 with a "traditional offense" and they've been unsuccessful as many times as they've been successful. You don't beat Alabama at their own game, you just don't.
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:45 AM
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I love seeing something different for a change in the NFL. The league has been beyond predictable with everybody running the same offenses year in and year out. This will probably fade away but who cares? It's something different. Like the run n shoot the Lions used to run with Scott Mitchell. That offense was devastating (yes, I said 'Lions' and 'devastating' in the same sentence ;) and fun to watch. Yes, these QB's will probably get killed but that's the NFL.
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:26 AM
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I'm not against the spread option, I just don't see it having longevity in the League, that's all. Do you really think Dan Snyder is doing cartwheels now that there is uncertainty as to whether his franchise QB will ever be the same? Sure, there's the chance he could come back like AP did last year, but there's also the possibility that he could miss the entire season next year. In college, the risk of injury to your starteing QB isn't as great because there is usually someone waiting in the wings and at the very least, you are plugging in a new QB every couple of years or so anyways. In the pros, it works a little differently as you'd like to think your franchise QB will have a longer shelf life than 2-3 years. Furthermore, defenders are bigger, faster and stronger in the NFL and I just don't think it will be too long before you see DC's coming up with ways to slow down the spread option and once you see a few more injuries like we saw happen to RG3, I think you will see the spread option in the NFL fade into the sunset...
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:57 AM
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MattyGoBlue! I'm not against the spread option, I just don't see it having longevity in the League, that's all. Do you really think Dan Snyder is doing cartwheels now that there is uncertainty as to whether his franchise QB will ever be the same? Sure, there's the chance he could come back like AP did last year, but there's also the possibility that he could miss the entire season next year. In college, the risk of injury to your starteing QB isn't as great because there is usually someone waiting in the wings and at the very least, you are plugging in a new QB every couple of years or so anyways. In the pros, it works a little differently as you'd like to think your franchise QB will have a longer shelf life than 2-3 years. Furthermore, defenders are bigger, faster and stronger in the NFL and I just don't think it will be too long before you see DC's coming up with ways to slow down the spread option and once you see a few more injuries like we saw happen to RG3, I think you will see the spread option in the NFL fade into the sunset... I think it's legitimate to question the longevity of duel-threat QBs in the NFL. Have to look at the whole picture though. Are duel-threat QBs really more injury prone than pocket passers? Is a blind side hit on a statute as likely to cause injury as RGIII getting whacked outside the pocket? Matthew Stafford couldn't go 2 games without coming up limp this season and had all sorts of injury issues his first 2 seasons. Is a QB that can't get away from defenders any less injury prone? RGII is going to have to learn to pick his spots and get the hell down. He didn't play as smartly as a Russell Wilson who would get what he could then get down or out of bounds.
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Re:In the NFL, college tactics emerging
Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:56 PM
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Russel Wilson plays a different style than RG3. Wilson would much rather throw first or give the ball to Lynch and let him run the football than run it himself. RG3 seems like he'd rather run himself much more than Wilson and I'd say Kaep is more in the same vein as RG3 in that regard as well.
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