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Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:57 PM (permalink)
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“In his fourth year now, I think there’s more depth there, I think it’s going to help them become more dominant up front because I think (new offensive coordinator Doug) Nussmeier comes in at the right time,” Herbstreit said on a conference call today. “They’re going to try to run the football downhill. I think the backs are more experienced and, consequently, I think it’s going to take a lot of pressure off Devin Gardner.

“I think Devin Funchess is going to be his go-to guy. They’ll put him in a position to make some plays one on one and the defensive secondary will have to pay a lot of attention to him, which will create a lot of running lanes.”

“Getting Doug Nussmeier over as the offensive coordinator will help them,” Hebrstreit said. “It was really painful to watch their offense last year. I don’t know in my lifetime if I’ve ever been able to see a Michigan offense not be able to run the football. While most of the attention seemed to fall on Devin Gardner, watching that team week in and week out, I was mystified by the offensive line play and the lack of difference makers at the tailback position.

“For my entire life Michigan’s played great defense and have a dominant offensive line and they’ve been able to run the football.”

Rich Rodriguez “changed the (offensive) DNA” and it has taken time for Hoke to “get it back to more of a pro-style offense.”

“For Michigan to get back to the Bo Schembechler, Lloyd Carr type of Michigan, to me it’s about getting their defense to being a physical, athletic defense,” Herbstreit said. “Time will tell us if Greg Mattison has a bunch who can do that. On paper, there’s a lot to like there. We’ll find out if some of these freshmen are as good as we’re hearing.

“Michigan, they’ve got to get back to having guys that are going to play on Sunday on that side of the ball and we just have not seen that in a number of years.”


Herbie weighs in on Michigan...

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:23 PM (permalink)
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"a more dominant OL"??!?!?!
 
that would imply that it's already somewhat "dominant."  that's pretty funny, considering the OL hasn't even been set, and was getting abused in the scrimmage



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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:19 AM (permalink)
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Well...we know whose night scrimmage Herbie didn't watch.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:30 AM (permalink)
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I will say this he has never been a homer for osu on air and he has not smirked at Michigan like Spielman
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:34 AM (permalink)
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I think Herbie and Spiels both get a bad rap. Herbie stays pretty unbiased and Spiels at one point I thought was on the verge of proposing marriage to Denard because of how much he used to gush about him. Only former Buckeye commentator I have a problem with is Robert Smith.
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:44 AM (permalink)
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Herbie said it was the most painful Michigan offense to watch in his lifetime last year...haha. It's actually not funny...but as much as Herbie gets on his knees for Nuss, he isn't coaching our OL and he can't fix their deficiencies, which don't seem to be complex or simplicity of a playbook (which was often the excuse last year), rather fundamentals. Deep down I bet Nuss is shocked and disgusted at the development of the OL. Hoke should have the balls to ask him what he thinks of Funk and if he thinks he can pull a better OL coach to AA, and quickly...but Hoke doesn't have the stones to throw one of his pals from the country club under the bus.

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:52 AM (permalink)
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but Hoke doesn't have the stones to throw one of his pals from the country club under the bus.

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you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?



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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:18 AM (permalink)
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you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?

Yep, like Borges, who BTW was fired a year too late and after last season even Borges had to think he deserved the axe deep down.

The only reason Borges was fired was either Brandon told Hoke to take out the trash, or Hoke ran out of excuses for Borges, especially when he was doing double time also coming up with excuses for his own failures.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:44 AM (permalink)
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you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?

Yep, like Borges, who BTW was fired a year too late and after last season even Borges had to think he deserved the axe deep down.

The only reason Borges was fired was either Brandon told Hoke to take out the trash, or Hoke ran out of excuses for Borges, especially when he was doing double time also coming up with excuses for his own failures.

 
doesn't change the fact that hoke still "had the stones" to fire a pal of his, even if it came 1 year too late.  in 2011, offense was pretty damn good, 2012, not so good, but not horrible. in 2013, it was obviously abysmal, and therefore got fired.  you're acting like borges was retained for years on end while having crap offenses
 
 



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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:11 AM (permalink)
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I can't believe all of you here sucking up to Herbstreit. Have you all forgotten his little "announcement" that Les Miles would become the new HC @ UM right before the SEC Championship game a few years back????

Now I'm not saying Les was headed to AA for sure but Herbstreit announcing that right then ensured that he wasn't headed to AA because he forced him to address it right then & there or risk losing an SEC title & potential national title. Without Herbstreits interference who knows what might have happened.

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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:17 AM (permalink)
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If Nussmeier was an O-line coach by trade I understand the "savior" complex that people have placed on him. As it stands his hands are tied and he's at the mercy of Darrel Funk (so was Borges to be fair but he had his own independent issues). After Nuss was hired Hoke admitted that they never discussed the coaching staff or potentially making changes which to me is silly and irresponsible, on the part of Hoke and Nussmeier. If I`m Nussmeier I don't take the job without having some say in the guys that are responsible for my success and ultimately the team's success. If I`m Hoke I don't hire a guy without him signing off on the guys he's expected to lead.
 
It's bad enough that Hoke can't effectively evaluate his own coaches and shows blind loyalty to his buddies. Having the opportunity to better the staff and by extension the program and not doing so is pure incompetence.
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:30 AM (permalink)
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but Hoke doesn't have the stones to throw one of his pals from the country club under the bus.

Go Blue!!


you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?

 
Careful MJ, that doesn't fit the narrative around here!  /eyeroll
 
Listen, anyone extrapolating an entire season of play from a single scrimmage two weeks before the first game is welcome to do so.  Here's a novel idea, how about we see how the team does against an opponent before all the hue and cry?  
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:53 AM (permalink)
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you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?

Yep, like Borges, who BTW was fired a year too late and after last season even Borges had to think he deserved the axe deep down.

The only reason Borges was fired was either Brandon told Hoke to take out the trash, or Hoke ran out of excuses for Borges, especially when he was doing double time also coming up with excuses for his own failures.


doesn't change the fact that hoke still "had the stones" to fire a pal of his, even if it came 1 year too late.  in 2011, offense was pretty damn good, 2012, not so good, but not horrible. in 2013, it was obviously abysmal, and therefore got fired.  you're acting like borges was retained for years on end while having crap offenses

 
But he didn't have the stones. Don't you see that? If someone has to tell you to do something you don't want to do, that in effect means you don't have the stones to do it. Doesn't matter if the move is ultimately made (ala Borges getting fired); doesn't change the fact that Hoke didn't want to make the move but was FORCED too.
 
Brandon is like the Wizard of Oz behind the green screen calling all the shots and Hoke is his puppet. For what it's worth, Brandon was the same way with Rich Rod too which absolutely drove Rich Rod bananas. How many AD's do you know/read about who sit in on Sunday morning film sessions and critique coaches and players after each and every game?
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:58 AM (permalink)
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So if 3 full seasons of regression isn't enought to extrapolate from what is @scmgoblue?

We can't pontificate on things we haven't seen & unlike a few people around here (/eyroll) not all of us are content with the incessant "wait 'til next year" BS.

Three years of regression is a rather large sample size. At this point it's safe to conclude that if this year or next years team has great success (/twirlhairpopgumlongbreathyeahrighteyeroll) it will be inspite of Brady Hoke not because of him.

Now if you'll excuse me I must go get a tissue to wipe up my hue & tears.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:01 AM (permalink)
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So if 3 full seasons of regression isn't enought to extrapolate from what is @scmgoblue?

We can't pontificate on things we haven't seen & unlike a few people around here (/eyroll) not all of us are content with the incessant "wait 'til next year" BS.

Three years of regression is a rather large sample size. At this point it's safe to conclude that if this year or next years team has great success (/twirlhairpopgumlongbreathyeahrighteyeroll) it will be inspite of Brady Hoke not because of him.

Now if you'll excuse me I must go get a tissue to wipe up my hue & tears.

 
By no means am I a Hoke supporter, but you're saying that if Hoke loses this season it's his fault, BUT if they win this season it's inspite of Hoke and he deserves no credit?
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34 AM (permalink)
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I suppose I am. I believe we'll see the same mediocrity we've seen the past 2 seasons but if by some miracle we do pull off an 11 win campaign it will be because of the players & assistants not Hoke. There are rare occasions where luck & talent can trump incomptence. I believe an anomaly is alwaya a possibility in any endevour. Now if Hoke manages to find consistency & have 2,3,4 good to great seasons then he deserves a ton of credit & I'll stand right here & say I was a moron & completely wrong. But until proven otherwise I believe Hoke is only capable of mediocrity & anything above & beyond that must be attributed to something or someone else.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:53 AM (permalink)
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but Hoke doesn't have the stones to throw one of his pals from the country club under the bus.

Go Blue!!


you mean like Al Borges, who Hoke admitted was his good friend and spent 5 years with?


Careful MJ, that doesn't fit the narrative around here!  /eyeroll

Listen, anyone extrapolating an entire season of play from a single scrimmage two weeks before the first game is welcome to do so.  Here's a novel idea, how about we see how the team does against an opponent before all the hue and cry?  

So it's blind faith and ignoring contrary evidence you're asking for????
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:29 PM (permalink)
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I dunno 4life, he asking u for a 15% cut? Lol
 
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:37 PM (permalink)
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Oh lord people, take off the aluminum hats. If you honestly think Dave Brandon fired Borges, and is controlling the program from behind a curtain you are a loony toon, and I have beach front property in Nevada to sell you.

Hoke fired Borges. The end.

And, if the OL doesn't improve I'm sure Hoke will fire Funk. Funk got another year because last year the OL had THREE positions where no one had taken a single snap. Now, they have a year of experience and three years in the program. If the OL struggles again I have faith Hoke will make the right choice and fire Funk, just like he did with Borges.
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Re:Herbstreit weighs in on Michigan Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:55 PM (permalink)
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Oh lord people, take off the aluminum hats. If you honestly think Dave Brandon fired Borges, and is controlling the program from behind a curtain you are a loony toon, and I have beach front property in Nevada to sell you.

Hoke fired Borges. The end.

And, if the OL doesn't improve I'm sure Hoke will fire Funk. Funk got another year because last year the OL had THREE positions where no one had taken a single snap. Now, they have a year of experience and three years in the program. If the OL struggles again I have faith Hoke will make the right choice and fire Funk, just like he did with Borges.

Yet we go into this year with those SAME three spots still up for grabs, and without experience there. The 3 linemen that finished the year against K-State were not the same starters in this spring, they were not the same starters at the beginning of fall camp 3 weeks ago, and they are not the same starters right now, 10 days from the first game.
 
But I guess that's Rich Rod's fault
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