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College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:23 AM (permalink)
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http://m.espn.go.com/wire../story?storyId=10363430



For the first time in the history of college sports, athletes are asking to be represented by a labor union, taking formal steps on Tuesday to begin the process of being recognized as employees, ESPN's "Outside The Lines" has learned.

Ramogi Huma, president of the National College Players Association, filed a petition in Chicago on behalf of football players at Northwestern University, submitting the form at the regional office of the National Labor Relations Board.

Backed by the United Steelworkers union, Huma also filed union cards signed by an undisclosed number of Northwestern players with the NLRB -- the federal statutory body that recognizes groups that seek collective bargaining rights.

"This is about finally giving college athletes a seat at the table," said Huma, a former UCLA linebacker, who created the NCPA as an advocacy group in 2001. "Athletes deserve an equal voice when it comes to their physical, academic and financial protections."

Huma told "Outside The Lines" that the move to unionize players at Northwestern started with quarterback Kain Colter, who reached out to him last spring and asked for help in giving athletes representation in their effort to improve the conditions under which they play NCAA sports. Colter became a leading voice in regular NCPA-organized conference calls among players from around the country.


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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:52 AM (permalink)
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This is the beginning of the end....
 
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:57 AM (permalink)
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Get ready for 5am stair climbers at Ryan Field...

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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:17 PM (permalink)
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Pat Fitzgerald wasn't a fan of this kind of stuff the last time around. It was inevitable though.
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/n...ovement-230451663.html
 
 
Players have a legit case to want a seat at the table, and not just about getting paid. The distribution of power between player and school/coach is completely one sided. Coaches can bounced from team to team with free will, a player not only has to ask for his freedom papers, the school/coach has the ability to limit his movement which has led to some ridiculous situations (like Derek Dooley banning DeAnthony Arnett from half the schools in D1). Schools can yank scholarships from kids on a whim, from recruits who have signed LOI's to players on the roster who coaches simply want to dump to bring on bigger and better athletes.
 
Add in the CTE stuff and you have a laundry list of issues that affect players on a daily basis that players have been shut out of the process from.
 
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:38 PM (permalink)
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Its amazing how this generation of kids is growing up with a sense of entitlement.  IF it wasn't for the college programs making SO MUCH MONEY (see DB's Salary) then I would be totally against it, but things being the way they are.....more power to 'em
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:51 PM (permalink)
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Its amazing how this generation of kids is growing up with a sense of entitlement.  IF it wasn't for the college programs making SO MUCH MONEY (see DB's Salary) then I would be totally against it, but things being the way they are.....more power to 'em


To me I dont see them sensing entitlement. I see it as smart people who are doing something to change the system. Unions were developed in the first place to organize groups to have power against the working conditions of employers. As we all know the management will exploit the worker as long as they can. Right now the NCAA is exploiting student athletes to a degree. Yes they get a free education but nowadays a college degree is really not worth much related to the money they earn for the university.
 
It will be interesting to see if this catches on what the response from the NCAA will be.
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:54 PM (permalink)
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Legally, the players really don't have a leg to stand on because they are not employees and therefore cannot unionize. Also, there is legal precedence for college and amateur athletes not bring paid (and the lawsuit is not asking for athletes to get paid, YET).

However, I do think scholarships should be honored for 4 years.

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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 4:13 PM (permalink)
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The idea of college athletes not being viewed as employees is one of the things I'd guess a union like this would challenge.
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 4:57 PM (permalink)
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Ah hell, give em a guaranteed 4 year scholarship for tuition, books, boarding, meals and whatever else I may be forgetting when calculating an education and $10.10 an hour for time spent performing scholarship related sports activities.  Call it good.
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:47 PM (permalink)
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Ah hell, give em a guaranteed 4 year scholarship for tuition, books, boarding, meals and whatever else I may be forgetting when calculating an education and $10.10 an hour for time spent performing scholarship related sports activities.  Call it good.

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Just curious where u came up with the $10.10 rate?
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:07 PM (permalink)
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The writing has been on the wall for awhile. I believe this attempt to unionize will fail but eventually the 4 power conferences will break away from the NCAA & form a quasi minor league football league with paid players. College football is BIG business & these young men aren't going to continue to play "just" for scholarships.
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:05 AM (permalink)
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The second the unionize, don't they become "professionals" and lose their amateur status?

 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:38 AM (permalink)
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WolvyMike


The second the unionize, don't they become "professionals" and lose their amateur status?


I'm sure there is some fancy lawyer language that will get around that.
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:58 AM (permalink)
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Edub4Blue


Ah hell, give em a guaranteed 4 year scholarship for tuition, books, boarding, meals and whatever else I may be forgetting when calculating an education and $10.10 an hour for time spent performing scholarship related sports activities.  Call it good.

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Just curious where u came up with the $10.10 rate?

 
I figure the players time is worth the same as some guy flippin' burgers at Burger King but then again I am no expert.
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:22 AM (permalink)
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The good news is we're safe.  Nobody at Michigan, from the players to the coaches, has earned a "paycheck" in 7 years.  They should pay US for even watching.
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:26 AM (permalink)
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The good news is we're safe.  Nobody at Michigan, from the players to the coaches, has earned a "paycheck" in 7 years.  They should pay US for even watching.


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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:09 AM (permalink)
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I know the players don't see it this way, but they are getting a free education, free medical care, free food stipends ... yeah, yeah, it's not a "real" paycheck, but it's close enough, especially considering the low number of kids who go on to play in the NFL.
 
College is preparing them either for the NFL, or the professional workforce ... for free.
 
Pretty slick deal IMO.
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:38 AM (permalink)
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Sick deal? This may have been a sick deal in the days when amateurism actually meant something...but the only thing amateur about college football is the players. Coaches...paid on par with professional coaches. Athletic directors are being paid on par with GMs in the NFL. Teams are getting multi million dollar licensing deals. Tons of revenue is generated by the NCAA off the backs of these athletes...and all they get in return is what some countries call a basic right.
 
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:52 AM (permalink)
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I know the players don't see it this way, but they are getting a free education, free medical care, free food stipends ... yeah, yeah, it's not a "real" paycheck, but it's close enough, especially considering the low number of kids who go on to play in the NFL.

College is preparing them either for the NFL, or the professional workforce ... for free.

Pretty slick deal IMO.

Don't see it that way? That's not reality. None of that is free, players receive those things for services rendered. How about this, how about schools stop giving players a "free" education, medical care, food, stipends, etc. Charge them for their costs, but pay them what they're worth.
 
According to the Business Insider that would be between $191k and $578k per year for the average player. $470k per player, per year at Michigan.
http://www.businessinside...is-worth-578000-2013-9
 
I've said it again and again, if players were paid equal to the amount of money they bring into the university none of them would need scholarships from the school or anything else that schools "provide." Players could pay out of pocket plus have PLENTY left over if we went to an equal pay for equal service. That will never happen of course and schools would go bankrupt, which is why I find that objection to paying players a $400-500 a month stipend completely silly.
 
As for guys going on to the NFL, that's really irrelevant. The money is being generated at the college level, for the college game. The college game is big business.
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Re:College Football (Athletes) Union Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:57 AM (permalink)
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The second the unionize, don't they become "professionals" and lose their amateur status?

What amateur status?
 
The term "amateur" being associated with college athletes is a complete joke. It's used simply as a way for ADs and college President to not pay their employees.
 
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