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An amazing quote from Gardner Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:06 PM (permalink)
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"@nickbaumgardner: Devin Gardner: "Before coach Nuss got here, I never had to identify a MIKE ... now I know where pressure's from.""
 
   
 
 
    
 
 
 
 



 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:20 PM (permalink)
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Thanks Borges. And thanks Hoke for letting Borges ravage half of this roster for three years.
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:21 PM (permalink)
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D'oh
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:30 PM (permalink)
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:48 PM (permalink)
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DAMN that Borges...how the hell is he considered such an offensive genius 
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:55 PM (permalink)
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not defending borges, but how hard is it to ID the mike? I'm willing to bet most people on this forum could do that.  yeah, on some plays it might be somewhat challenging due to formation, but really, is identifying him a necessary ingredient for QB success?
 
 



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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:18 PM (permalink)
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MJackson


not defending borges, but how hard is it to ID the mike? I'm willing to bet most people on this forum could do that.  yeah, on some plays it might be somewhat challenging due to formation, but really, is identifying him a necessary ingredient for QB success?



That's what I was thinking too. 
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:59 PM (permalink)
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Identifying someone as the MIKE LB sets up the protection for the center and backs. Typically the guards and tackles take the DTs and DEs (most OL's try to block big on big). The center and backs have to figure out who is left unaccounted for to block. So based on defensive formation and tendencies learned during film, the QB calls out the MIKE, which gives the center his blocking assignment. Once the MIKE is establsihed - it may not be the player who in reality is the MLB, the backs will know who to block. Without doing this, the center and backs may be late in figuring out who their guy is.

It isn't necessarily the MIKE LB per se, in that the QB will identify a guy, who the OL and backs then treat as the MIKE. Essentially in the man-to-man run or pass blocking scheme, everyone needs to be on the same page as to who is picking up who. When the QB identifies the MIKE, everyone will know who to block relative to that guy.

So for example, facing a 4-3, the QB might notice extra pressure is being brought down the strong side. If everyone blocked relative to the actual MIKE, it may for instance leave a guy unblocked strong-side, and a back not blocking anybody on the weak side, so the QB will identify the SAM as MIKE, the protection will shift and ideally everything will work out.

By default the MIKE will be the middle LB in the 4-3 but in reading the defense, the QB in essence can re-designate who the MIKE LB is and thus adjusting the protection. If one of the safeties comes into the box, it may be that the opposite side LB will drop off, meaning that the MIKE may now be "designated" by the QB as the LB on the safety's side of the field and therefore the protection scheme gets re-adjusted to account for safety.

So, uh, yeah, it's kind of important and not as easy as it seems...

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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:15 AM (permalink)
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Identifying someone as the MIKE LB sets up the protection for the center and backs. Typically the guards and tackles take the DTs and DEs (most OL's try to block big on big). The center and backs have to figure out who is left unaccounted for to block. So based on defensive formation and tendencies learned during film, the QB calls out the MIKE, which gives the center his blocking assignment. Once the MIKE is establsihed - it may not be the player who in reality is the MLB, the backs will know who to block. Without doing this, the center and backs may be late in figuring out who their guy is.

It isn't necessarily the MIKE LB per se, in that the QB will identify a guy, who the OL and backs then treat as the MIKE. Essentially in the man-to-man run or pass blocking scheme, everyone needs to be on the same page as to who is picking up who. When the QB identifies the MIKE, everyone will know who to block relative to that guy.

So for example, facing a 4-3, the QB might notice extra pressure is being brought down the strong side. If everyone blocked relative to the actual MIKE, it may for instance leave a guy unblocked strong-side, and a back not blocking anybody on the weak side, so the QB will identify the SAM as MIKE, the protection will shift and ideally everything will work out.

By default the MIKE will be the middle LB in the 4-3 but in reading the defense, the QB in essence can re-designate who the MIKE LB is and thus adjusting the protection. If one of the safeties comes into the box, it may be that the opposite side LB will drop off, meaning that the MIKE may now be "designated" by the QB as the LB on the safety's side of the field and therefore the protection scheme gets re-adjusted to account for safety.

So, uh, yeah, it's kind of important and not as easy as it seems...

Go Blue!!


 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:05 AM (permalink)
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Well, Scottsdale beat me to this explanation..........
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:37 AM (permalink)
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Mother that is all holy, WTF
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:44 AM (permalink)
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Wow...
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:39 AM (permalink)
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The MIKE was just one of 11 guys our O line and backs couldn't block last year so this sudden revelation doesn't mean much but definitely a bizarre statement from Gardner.
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:43 AM (permalink)
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Doesn't mean much, only that our QB had zero training and was hung out to get murdered all season.  That's all........
 
 


 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:43 AM (permalink)
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Could explain part of the reason our RBs were terrible in pass pro last year. IDing is half the battle, and late identification of a linebacker usually means you're screwed as a RB.
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:10 AM (permalink)
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Isn't the first time DG has dropped this nugget.
 
From back in July.....
 


"I'm ID'ing the Mike (linebacker) every single play now, and if I don't, Coach Nuss is gonna let me know about it. I'd never ID'd the Mike in my life," Gardner said. "I'm glad that (Nussmeier) came this year. I'm still learning the protections, the basics of it. I know everything that everybody does but it's gonna take through the summer for me to get better at it. I'd even picked Peyton's (Manning) brain about their protections ... It's hard to learn. We had the whole spring, and Coach Nuss forces you to learn. He's a very intense guy. He helped me a lot with it."

http://www.al.com/sports/...evin_gardner_prai.html
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:53 AM (permalink)
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DAMN that Borges...how the hell is he considered such an offensive genius

You know how we know this isn't true?  He's been out of a job since January and the new season starts next week.
 
Maybe Hoke considered him an offensive genius, but that's a company-you-keep situation.
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:50 AM (permalink)
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Are u suggesting Borges was just a product of his enviorment? Like being the smartest kid in the slow class?
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:53 PM (permalink)
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I am not defending borges by any stretch but it seems like his O wasn't predicated on that type of read. There are nuisances to every Offense and some have different keys as it relates to blocking etc. Its great that he is identifying it because its a pro-styl O which at the next level he will need. But he was here during the RR spread which based on the formations may not need a read because there is no one to read because that LB is in coverage or they are playing nickel or dime coverages. So while I am glad Borges is gone Iw ould take the comment with a grain of salt in that this system is teaching him something new not necessarily mind blowing.... 
 
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Re:An amazing quote from Gardner Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:10 PM (permalink)
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I am no means a fan of borgess, but Uneek1 makes a great point
 
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