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Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM (permalink)
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Winged Helmet, glad to be on your side, also as a former Army Ranger, can attest that the vast majority of veterans I know are all very conservative. That being said Obama took a huge gamble and thank god it was successful, could have been a disaster. Just glad he had the balls to do it. Was in NYC visiting my daughter and was in Times Square Monday morning lots of people, security and celebration.
 
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    Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:29 PM (permalink)
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    Winged Helmet, glad to be on your side, also as a former Army Ranger

    That makes two of us. Class 5-81...1/75th...24 years...wounded out in 05. Go Blue brother!!!
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      Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:52 PM (permalink)
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      Winged Helmet, glad to be on your side, also as a former Army Ranger, can attest that the vast majority of veterans I know are all very conservative. That being said Obama took a huge gamble and thank god it was successful, could have been a disaster. Just glad he had the balls to do it. Was in NYC visiting my daughter and was in Times Square Monday morning lots of people, security and celebration.

       
      Yes, thank God we got rid of UBL and props to Obama.
       
      Let me congratulate all you guys with the fantastic military service records.  You guys are truly heroes.
       
      God Bless America!
      Go Blue!
       
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        Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 6:03 PM (permalink)
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        Jackdog, I was in G co. 75th ranger regmt. RVN 68-69.
         
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          Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 6:15 PM (permalink)
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          mgobob


          Winged Helmet, glad to be on your side, also as a former Army Ranger, can attest that the vast majority of veterans I know are all very conservative. That being said Obama took a huge gamble and thank god it was successful, could have been a disaster. Just glad he had the balls to do it. Was in NYC visiting my daughter and was in Times Square Monday morning lots of people, security and celebration.


          Yes, thank God we got rid of UBL and props to Obama.

          Let me congratulate all you guys with the fantastic military service records.  You guys are truly heroes.

          God Bless America!
          Go Blue!

          +1
           
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            Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:05 PM (permalink)
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            mgobob


            Winged Helmet, glad to be on your side, also as a former Army Ranger, can attest that the vast majority of veterans I know are all very conservative. That being said Obama took a huge gamble and thank god it was successful, could have been a disaster. Just glad he had the balls to do it. Was in NYC visiting my daughter and was in Times Square Monday morning lots of people, security and celebration.


            Yes, thank God we got rid of UBL and props to Obama.

            Let me congratulate all you guys with the fantastic military service records.  You guys are truly heroes.

            God Bless America!
            Go Blue!

            +1

             
            No matter what your political beliefs are, this is something we ALL should agree on!  Well said winged and I completely agree 110%

             

            GO BLUE!!!

             
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              Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:59 PM (permalink)
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              So I guess this whole thing get Obama off the hook from his sinking approval rating. Glad Bin Laden is gone, but find it funny how quickly our citizens opinions change.
               
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                Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 8:14 PM (permalink)
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                So I guess this whole thing get Obama off the hook from his sinking approval rating. Glad Bin Laden is gone, but find it funny how quickly our citizens opinions change.

                Happens all the time, President Bush had an approval rating in the 60s until 9/11 then it shot up to 90%. It stay high until we invaded Iraq, then it plummeted. After we caught Saddam it shot back up only to sink again.
                 
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                  Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:15 PM (permalink)
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                  Jackdog, I was in G co. 75th ranger regmt. RVN 68-69.

                   
                  Outstanding. Thanks for your service. 
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                    Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:30 PM (permalink)
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                    Now I`m not saying.......I`m just saying.


                    Al Qaeda member surrenders, Saudi Arabia says

                    In the wake of Osama bin Laden's demise, is al Qaeda falling apart?
                     
                    The Saudi Interior Ministry said today that a senior al Qaeda member on Riyadh's most-wanted list named Khaled al-Qahtani called from abroad and turned himself in.
                    "Interior Ministry's spokesman Maj. Gen. Mansour Al-Turki said in a statement Wednesday that Khaled Hathal Abdullah al-Atifi al-Qahtani contacted the security authorities from an undisclosed country and expressed his wish to come home," the Associated Press http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...i_ea/ml_saudi_al_qaida]reports[/link].
                     
                    "Al-Qahtani was reunited with his family and his surrender will be taken into consideration while looking into his case, Al-Turki said."
                     
                    The Saudi Interior Ministry spokesman did not indicate when Khaled al-Qahtani gave himself up, but many members of the group's Yemeni wing, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), have recently fled from Yemen, the AP writes.
                     
                    It wasn't immediately possible to ascertain whether Khaled Al-Qahtani is the brother or relative of Mohammed al-Qahtani, a Saudi-born al Qaeda militant detained at the U.S. military detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Mohammed al-Qahtani, now 32, had been picked up in the battle of Tora Bora in Afghanistan from which bin Laden is believed to have escaped.

                    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theenvoy/20110504/ts_yblog_theenvoy/al-qaeda-member-surrenders-saudi-arabia-says
                     
                     
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                      Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:37 PM (permalink)
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                      "Political atheist"here  ;-)  Ya'll have fun fighting against each other though! hahahaa
                       
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                        Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:25 AM (permalink)
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                        "Political atheist"here  ;-)  Ya'll have fun fighting against each other though! hahahaa

                        Hahaha, I may have to start using that.
                         
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                          Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:01 AM (permalink)
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                          You are not alone Winged.  As someone who served and graduated from UM with the help of the GI bill, I can tell you that most of the men on that Seal Team are more likely to have voted Republican than Democrat.  I would bet that a vast majority of them voted for McCain over Obama especially given his naval background.
                          As for public employee unions.  Unions were created because "the man" was sticking it to the workers...a good cause.  But when it comes to public employee unions there is no "man", the public is "the man", or at the very least, the public votes for 'the man".  So when the unions fight against "the man" they are fighting against you the taxpayer, but I don't think you are trying to take advantage of the public employees, are you?  I think you could argue that indeed, the reverse is the case.  Employee unions finance and vote for dems who in turn continue to give the unions more and more benefits.  It works great until you run out of other peoples (you the taxpayers)  money to give to the unions.
                          Ok let me have it, but remember, we're all on the same team...GO BLUE!!  And what a great day that murdering b stard is dead!!



                          You're right- the unions were a definite necessity once upon a time but over time have grown to be out of control.  But the problem is, the Republicans just want to s*** can the entire idea.  The balance just needs to be shifted.  Instead, they want to eliminate them entirely.  Same goes for Medicaid, Social Security and on and on.  Typical extremist over-reaction.  It's just like the budget.  Republicans suddenly care about the budget when they're NOT in office-funny how that works.  Of course, their 'fix' is to eliminate everything.  But the real bottom line is that we, the people, spend our time fighting over this stuff when the fact is it doesn't matter who is in office, 'pub or Dem.  They are all beholden to the same things: big business, oil, and the special interest groups that elected them.  Some are just more obvious about it than others.  Give me moderate anybody and I'm happy.  But these days there's just too many extreme views from both sides of the aisle.  BUT...like you said, we're all on the same team in the end, especially where that POS bin Laden is concerned.

                           
                           
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                            Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:03 AM (permalink)
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                            "Political atheist"here  ;-)  Ya'll have fun fighting against each other though! hahahaa

                             
                            Call it what you want but I salute with all my heart these veterans on this board who gave so much so you can write your cutesy little remark.
                             
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                              Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:34 AM (permalink)
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                              GABlue


                              You are not alone Winged.  As someone who served and graduated from UM with the help of the GI bill, I can tell you that most of the men on that Seal Team are more likely to have voted Republican than Democrat.  I would bet that a vast majority of them voted for McCain over Obama especially given his naval background.
                              As for public employee unions.  Unions were created because "the man" was sticking it to the workers...a good cause.  But when it comes to public employee unions there is no "man", the public is "the man", or at the very least, the public votes for 'the man".  So when the unions fight against "the man" they are fighting against you the taxpayer, but I don't think you are trying to take advantage of the public employees, are you?  I think you could argue that indeed, the reverse is the case.  Employee unions finance and vote for dems who in turn continue to give the unions more and more benefits.  It works great until you run out of other peoples (you the taxpayers)  money to give to the unions.
                              Ok let me have it, but remember, we're all on the same team...GO BLUE!!  And what a great day that murdering b stard is dead!!



                              You're right- the unions were a definite necessity once upon a time but over time have grown to be out of control.  But the problem is, the Republicans just want to s*** can the entire idea.  The balance just needs to be shifted.  Instead, they want to eliminate them entirely.  Same goes for Medicaid, Social Security and on and on.  Typical extremist over-reaction.  It's just like the budget.  Republicans suddenly care about the budget when they're NOT in office-funny how that works.  Of course, their 'fix' is to eliminate everything.  But the real bottom line is that we, the people, spend our time fighting over this stuff when the fact is it doesn't matter who is in office, 'pub or Dem.  They are all beholden to the same things: big business, oil, and the special interest groups that elected them.  Some are just more obvious about it than others.  Give me moderate anybody and I'm happy.  But these days there's just too many extreme views from both sides of the aisle.  BUT...like you said, we're all on the same team in the end, especially where that POS bin Laden is concerned.


                              Read some very interesting articles and saw a film, they truly made me believe we haven't had a true president since JFK. And look how that turned out.
                               
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                                Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:00 PM (permalink)
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                                jsj_297


                                "Political atheist"here  ;-)  Ya'll have fun fighting against each other though! hahahaa


                                Call it what you want but I salute with all my heart these veterans on this board who gave so much so you can write your cutesy little remark.


                                I'm not sure how 'political atheist' translates in your mind to anti-veterans, but ok.  I believe in ANYBODY who put his/her life on the line for this country.  Always.  But that has zero to do with what I believe in as far as my government, the things they do, the things they say, or the decisions they make. 

                                 
                                 
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                                  Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:26 PM (permalink)
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                                  I used to feel the same way TK, they're all the same, repubs and dems.  Now I am an officer at a small bank and know just how intrusive government can be.  The past few years  the Federal Government has done unbelievable harm to institutions like mine while labeling our competition (which caused a least part of the financial meltdown) "to big to fail".  Tell me another time when the Federal Government has determined winners an losers in the supposed "free market."  They are imposing new rules on all banks every day, but a small bank has to spend a fortune in time and money to comply with rules that nobody can understand or interpret thanks to Sen Dodd and Rep Frank.  There is a huge difference between the two parties and it is more evident now than ever.
                                   
                                  And what is wrong with the Repubs being pro business?  Those evil businesses that are only there because of greedy rich guys, employ a lot of people.  The bigger and more profitable they get, the more people they employ.  I hope my board of directors get rich, that means I have a job and my business can expand giving me more opportunity.  I'll never understand the problem with being pro business. 
                                   
                                  And just because you want to change a system (medicare, ss) that is going to bankrupt the country does not make you an extremist, it makes you a realist.  I respect your football opinions, you are one of the people on this board I put the most stock in, but when it comes to unions and politics you need to re-examine your premisses.
                                   
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                                    Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:47 PM (permalink)
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                                    The question now is, 
                                    with the death of Bin Laden if now isnt the time to start pulling out of Afghanistan, when will it ever be?
                                                          
                                     
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                                      Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:05 PM (permalink)
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                                      I used to feel the same way TK, they're all the same, repubs and dems.  Now I am an officer at a small bank and know just how intrusive government can be.  The past few years  the Federal Government has done unbelievable harm to institutions like mine while labeling our competition (which caused a least part of the financial meltdown) "to big to fail".  Tell me another time when the Federal Government has determined winners an losers in the supposed "free market."  They are imposing new rules on all banks every day, but a small bank has to spend a fortune in time and money to comply with rules that nobody can understand or interpret thanks to Sen Dodd and Rep Frank.  There is a huge difference between the two parties and it is more evident now than ever.

                                      And what is wrong with the Repubs being pro business?  Those evil businesses that are only there because of greedy rich guys, employ a lot of people.  The bigger and more profitable they get, the more people they employ.  I hope my board of directors get rich, that means I have a job and my business can expand giving me more opportunity.  I'll never understand the problem with being pro business. 

                                      And just because you want to change a system (medicare, ss) that is going to bankrupt the country does not make you an extremist, it makes you a realist.  I respect your football opinions, you are one of the people on this board I put the most stock in, but when it comes to unions and politics you need to re-examine your premisses.

                                       
                                      Thank you, GABlue.  You get it.  Too bad so many don't.
                                       
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                                        Re:A bigger story- BIN LADEN DEAD Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:34 PM (permalink)
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                                        GABlue

                                        And what is wrong with the Repubs being pro business? 

                                        Republicans are not pro business, they are bought and paid for by big business as are most politicians.  This isn't a Republican/Democrat thing, although that is a perfect way to distract you from what's going on.  When lobbyists are literally inserting language into bills that are later passed, we are in a hell of a fix as a country.  I couldn't just wander to Washington and start perusing potential bills with my Congressman and/or Senators.  In fact, I'm still waiting for one of my state's Senators, Jon Kyl, to provide the source upon which he based the totally fabricated Planned Parenthood statistics he bloviated about in the Senate.  It's been a few weeks, so I suspect a response to my query is not forthcoming.
                                         
                                        I can suggest a reading list and some documentaries that may open your eyes to the kind of crap in which the gov't is complicit with big business in undermining the american economy, but I suspect you didn't arrive at your "pro" business beliefs based on reason, so there is little chance of you being reasoned out of them. 
                                         
                                        Look up a corporation named Monsanto and read any piece about them for 15 minutes that they didn't commission and then tell us all how great it is that the gov't's in bed with big business.
                                         
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