"Big Blue Bar Brawl"

Re:Bar Brawl (Philc)

Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:30:03 GMT

maizedawg

Wolverine Football

Wow, that poster better be right about this...that's slander if it isn't correct.

I don't think I've ever heard of a website or blogger get sued for slander or liable. Anyone else??

Phil, do you have any kind of legal obligation to what we post on here or is everything kind of held in a grey area as far as the law goes??

Legally? Not really. A person would need to show that they were somehow damaged by a posting. But in the case of players an arguement could be made that as public figures the standard is different.

Personally, I have an obligation to remove things that are blatantly offensive or unsubstantiated. In most cases I'll let stuff sit and see how it plays out. You are responsible for what you post. If someone continuously post false rumors you go away. The "I'm just repeating what I've heard elsewhere" excuse only goes so far.

In this case there was a source cited but I'm surprised that more hasn't come out if it really happened. As much as some people would love to believe that there is a conspiracy between the AA police and the AD, there are a fair amount of people in the city who would make a big deal if something like this happened.

This thread has run its course.

Re:Bar Brawl (Fonzie)

Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:51:27 GMT

I also chose to take a break 'cause I was tired of him infecting EVERY thread

We get it.....He worships Lloyd & doesn't like RichRod or anything remotely perceived to be associated with him

Re:Bar Brawl (ohowihate Ohio State)

Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:57:52 GMT

Fonzie

BigHouseFootball

And here we go again. Any OSU player as much as get looked at by a cop and we jump all over them. One of our guys gets arrested and you all come running to defend. It goes both ways folks. Big time screw up by our boys and if it turns out to be true-most of the time it does-then they need to be punished accordingly.

No big deal? I happen to think getting handcuffed and put in the back of a squad car is a big deal.

Took a break from the site 'cause I was tired of someone's continual, maniacal, ranting

2nd thread I open up, and it's like I never left

Message edited due to me being a little harsh. Harsh, and blunt. Maybe a little too blunt. Just tired of the constant BHF bashing. Seems to be in most threads. Dude, along with everyone else, is entitled to his opinion and views.
You chose to read every post, Fonzie.

Re:Bar Brawl (Fonzie)

Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:23:36 GMT

BigHouseFootball

And here we go again. Any OSU player as much as get looked at by a cop and we jump all over them. One of our guys gets arrested and you all come running to defend. It goes both ways folks. Big time screw up by our boys and if it turns out to be true-most of the time it does-then they need to be punished accordingly.

No big deal? I happen to think getting handcuffed and put in the back of a squad car is a big deal.

Took a break from the site 'cause I was tired of someone's continual, maniacal, ranting

2nd thread I open up, and it's like I never left

Re:Bar Brawl (maizedawg)

Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:53:30 GMT

Wolverine Football

Wow, that poster better be right about this...that's slander if it isn't correct.

I don't think I've ever heard of a website or blogger get sued for slander or liable. Anyone else??

Phil, do you have any kind of legal obligation to what we post on here or is everything kind of held in a grey area as far as the law goes??

Re:Bar Brawl (Buckeye2002)

Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:41:13 GMT

MattyGoBlue!

Buckeyes85

I guess if 1k posts over 7 or 8 years is obsessive then I'm guilty as charged. Some folks prefer their football dicussion to me more like a circle jerk: "XXX recruit is awesome!" "Yea, we are going 12-0 and there ain't now way we don't;" "our coach is awesome; our team is awesome; we are awesome", blah blah blah.

That's not me. I debate for a living so I would rather jump into the fray with the enemy than stand around patting other fans on the back and offering nothing meaningful to the discussion.

And if you don't appreciate the sarcasm, let me put it in a more straightforward manner: it's idiotic to attempt to tell a fan of any team how they feel about their team.

I would hardly say that we stand around patting other fans on the back offering nothing meaningful to the discussion. There is plenty of debate amongst Michigan fans alone in here with regards to a variety of topics. I don't mind bucknuts coming over to our boards and getting in on some of the debates. It's when they get their panties all in a wad when they see us putting down their players and such that I think they cross the line! What do they expect to find on a Michigan board? IMO, it's their input that often adds nothing meaningful to the discussion!

And speaking of adding nothing meaningful to the discussions, it is almost impossible to do so on one of your bucknut message boards without a) getting banned for having a differering opinion or b) getting called every derogatory Michgan slang in the book by some of the classy bucknut posters that infest those sites.

I'm not saying you're one of those 85. From what I can tell, you're one of the more civil bucknut contributors to this site. I just had to take my shot at your post above dealing with buckeye fans obsessed with all things Michigan. I had a feeling you would come back with that argument dealing with your longevity of membership here on this board though...

TRANSLATION: Not agreeing with a Michigan fan or actually debating a point. ;)

Re:Bar Brawl (section26)

Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:33:20 GMT

MichFan4Life

It's now Thursday, nothing OFFICIAL has come out

Curious

Yeah, if there was anything to this, we probably would've heard something (other than some random dude posting on Mike Valenti's board) by now.

Re:Bar Brawl (Wolverine Football)

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:24:34 GMT

Wow, that poster better be right about this...that's slander if it isn't correct.

Re:Bar Brawl (MattyGoBlue!)

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:15:00 GMT

Buckeyes85

I guess if 1k posts over 7 or 8 years is obsessive then I'm guilty as charged. Some folks prefer their football dicussion to me more like a circle jerk: "XXX recruit is awesome!" "Yea, we are going 12-0 and there ain't now way we don't;" "our coach is awesome; our team is awesome; we are awesome", blah blah blah.

That's not me. I debate for a living so I would rather jump into the fray with the enemy than stand around patting other fans on the back and offering nothing meaningful to the discussion.

And if you don't appreciate the sarcasm, let me put it in a more straightforward manner: it's idiotic to attempt to tell a fan of any team how they feel about their team.

I would hardly say that we stand around patting other fans on the back offering nothing meaningful to the discussion. There is plenty of debate amongst Michigan fans alone in here with regards to a variety of topics. I don't mind bucknuts coming over to our boards and getting in on some of the debates. It's when they get their panties all in a wad when they see us putting down their players and such that I think they cross the line! What do they expect to find on a Michigan board? IMO, it's their input that often adds nothing meaningful to the discussion!

And speaking of adding nothing meaningful to the discussions, it is almost impossible to do so on one of your bucknut message boards without a) getting banned for having a differering opinion or b) getting called every derogatory Michgan slang in the book by some of the classy bucknut posters that infest those sites.

I'm not saying you're one of those 85. From what I can tell, you're one of the more civil bucknut contributors to this site. I just had to take my shot at your post above dealing with buckeye fans obsessed with all things Michigan. I had a feeling you would come back with that argument dealing with your longevity of membership here on this board though...

Re:Bar Brawl (BlueSteel)

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:18:10 GMT

MichFan4Life

It's now Thursday, nothing OFFICIAL has come out

Curious

Mike's Sports Inferno isn't OFFICIAL enough for you???

Re:Bar Brawl (MichFan4Life)

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:48:34 GMT

It's now Thursday, nothing OFFICIAL has come out

Curious

Re:Bar Brawl (Buckeyes85)

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:23:04 GMT

MattyGoBlue!

Buckeyes85

ecembrew1

I have said it once and I will say it again. Osu fans live and die with Michigan it is more about the Wolverines than anything else. It does not matter they lost 2 embarrasing NC games or blew out by USC we beat Michigan 7 out of 8

Thank you for helping me come to terms with my inner buckeye. I never knew. . .

Now, anyone in the market for some tix to the OSU/USC game on 9/12? Apparently I don't care about that one anymore and I might as well try to sell the tix before every other buckeye learns the truth about their real feelings and decides to sell as well.

Dude. Spare us with your sarcastic wit! You have over 1,000 posts on a MICHIGAN board! If that doesn't come across as being a little obsessed with Michigan, I don't know what else you would call it?! I can't even count the number of times I've posted on a bucknut board because it has NEVER happened. I can't even stomach taking the time to read some of the filth that comes from your bucknut sites let alone taking the time to post over 1000 times...

I guess if 1k posts over 7 or 8 years is obsessive then I'm guilty as charged. Some folks prefer their football dicussion to me more like a circle jerk: "XXX recruit is awesome!" "Yea, we are going 12-0 and there ain't now way we don't;" "our coach is awesome; our team is awesome; we are awesome", blah blah blah.

That's not me. I debate for a living so I would rather jump into the fray with the enemy than stand around patting other fans on the back and offering nothing meaningful to the discussion.

And if you don't appreciate the sarcasm, let me put it in a more straightforward manner: it's idiotic to attempt to tell a fan of any team how they feel about their team.

Re:Bar Brawl (MattyGoBlue!)

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:47:50 GMT

Buckeyes85

ecembrew1

I have said it once and I will say it again. Osu fans live and die with Michigan it is more about the Wolverines than anything else. It does not matter they lost 2 embarrasing NC games or blew out by USC we beat Michigan 7 out of 8

Thank you for helping me come to terms with my inner buckeye. I never knew. . .

Now, anyone in the market for some tix to the OSU/USC game on 9/12? Apparently I don't care about that one anymore and I might as well try to sell the tix before every other buckeye learns the truth about their real feelings and decides to sell as well.

Dude. Spare us with your sarcastic wit! You have over 1,000 posts on a MICHIGAN board! If that doesn't come across as being a little obsessed with Michigan, I don't know what else you would call it?! I can't even count the number of times I've posted on a bucknut board because it has NEVER happened. I can't even stomach taking the time to read some of the filth that comes from your bucknut sites let alone taking the time to post over 1000 times...

Re:Bar Brawl (maizedawg)

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:23:39 GMT

Regardless if anyone got arrested it still shows the individual and the program in a negative light. I don't care if you get put in handcuffs and taken "downtown" or just sat there to pull your head out of your arse, either way you shouldn't be there in the first place.

For the most part, last year with Grady's DUI, everyone seemed ok with how RR handled it. Susupension from team activities and basically a one game suspension right?? If the accounts that have been reported are true then based on last year I have faith that RR will hand out a punishment that fits the infraction. I, however, would not be surprised if any punishment is light based on the wether or not anyone was actually arrested and charged with anything.

I would like to know if this "witness" knew if BG was taken away or just told to leave the area and not come back for the rest of the night.

Re:Bar Brawl (Buckeyes85)

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:02:59 GMT

ecembrew1

I have said it once and I will say it again. Osu fans live and die with Michigan it is more about the Wolverines than anything else. It does not matter they lost 2 embarrasing NC games or blew out by USC we beat Michigan 7 out of 8

Thank you for helping me come to terms with my inner buckeye. I never knew. . .

Now, anyone in the market for some tix to the OSU/USC game on 9/12? Apparently I don't care about that one anymore and I might as well try to sell the tix before every other buckeye learns the truth about their real feelings and decides to sell as well.

Re:"Big Blue Bar Brawl" (hart#20)

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:35:37 GMT

i did not hear about this one how did it come all about??? did they get arrested

Re:Bar Brawl (ecembrew1)

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:19:06 GMT

I have said it once and I will say it again. Osu fans live and die with Michigan it is more about the Wolverines than anything else. It does not matter they lost 2 embarrasing NC games or blew out by USC we beat Michigan 7 out of 8

Re:Bar Brawl (True Michigan Fan)

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:36:34 GMT

ohowihate Ohio State

This thread became ludicrous. Ant titled it "Bar Brawl" and people start tripping on him. It got you to read the post didn't it? Harmless.

I would have read it no matter what it was titled. That's what I come here to do...read posts.

Re:Bar Brawl (MattyGoBlue!)

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:28:45 GMT

ant80

BlueSteel

Spare you the charade??? Do you need to be reminded where you are? You obviously took a wrong turn at Bucknuts, when you thought that you could come in here and post some second hand rumor that you copied from some hack bulletin board and then have the audacity to label it a "bar brawl".

And I love how you call a bong a "tobacco pipe". Since the resin-free duo were never actually arrested, they were never put on the list.

I stand by my original statement. If no body got arrested, charged or cited with anything, this is nothing more than an argument with a bouncer that got blown out of proportion.

Spare you the charade??? Yeah. Right.
Phil, the can is getting full again. Time to take out the trash, please.

I challenge you to find ONE instance where anybody said it was a bong. There is not a SINGLE news article that says they were caught with a bong. Yes. Spare ME the charade.

BlueSteel, it wasn't a bong, it was a decorative vase...

I have to admit, when I read the title of this thread, coupled with all of the rumors floating around the past couple of days regarding this incident, I feared the worst. Then I saw the originator so I then thought, do I even want to read the likely BS he's spewing now? Sadly, I couldn't resist and here I am, commenting on it...

Just my opinion, but from what I've read, it sounds like nothing more than a little pushing and shoving. Hardly what I would consider a brawl...

I do agree with those that feel if arrests had been made, punishment should come down from Rodriguez and the football program at the very least. I don't like the idea of coddling our athletes when they find themselves on the wrong side of the law like a certain vest wearing coach of a little school in C'bus...

Re:Bar Brawl (ant80)

Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:05:05 GMT

BlueSteel

ant80

Please... spare me the charade. If this had been a buckeye, they would've already gone on your "list." You do realize Adams and Shugarts were never actually arrested... They got cited for carrying a tobacco pipe, and charges were dropped when they BOTH VOLUNTARILY took a drug test that came back negative. I didn't see you, or anyone else for that matter, even allude to, what must be in your mind, the remotest possibility that they were not guilty of anything other than running a stop sign. So... please... spare me the charade.

Spare you the charade??? Do you need to be reminded where you are? You obviously took a wrong turn at Bucknuts, when you thought that you could come in here and post some second hand rumor that you copied from some hack bulletin board and then have the audacity to label it a "bar brawl".

And I love how you call a bong a "tobacco pipe". Since the resin-free duo were never actually arrested, they were never put on the list.

I stand by my original statement. If no body got arrested, charged or cited with anything, this is nothing more than an argument with a bouncer that got blown out of proportion.

Spare you the charade??? Yeah. Right.
Phil, the can is getting full again. Time to take out the trash, please.

I challenge you to find ONE instance where anybody said it was a bong. There is not a SINGLE news article that says they were caught with a bong. Yes. Spare ME the charade.

Secondly... I didn't randomly title this message. The link that I saw was titled "Big Blue Bar Brawl". All B's. Was catchy. I just got lazy and skipped the "big blue" part. And the quotes part. In retrospect, I should've done it that way. Maybe I'll edit it that way... Done...