question on qb changes

Re:question on qb changes (M FTHFL)

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:34:47 GMT

RichRod wants someone to run the read option. Threet made several bad decisions and Sheridan seems better at making those read decisions. I agree that Threet makes the fakes better and is more deceptive with the ball. If he can start connecting downfield and running the read option better, we will have a QB we can win with.

Re:question on qb changes (scmgoblue)

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:09:25 GMT

BoMoCarr

I thought his hand-offs were better than Sheridan's, and his fake hand-offs were much better, which is one reason he ran relatively effectively.

That's a good point, his fakes were much more convincing, he seems more comfortable with the read/option and his speed was just fine (although I still find myself screaming "SLIDE!" every time he takes off... I did find it odd that we got away from those read options in the middle portion of the game considering how HARD the Miami DE's were biting on them.

It looked to me like the defense didn't take passing coverage very seriously with Sheridan in the game. Whether or not Threet can go deep with any accuracy, he's at least a threat to try those passes. That helps to spread the field a little more than Sheridan can.

Another good point, but one that is somewhat moot if we can't manage to do anything with that space through the air.

I have more confidence that Threet's accuracy will improve with playing time than I have confidence that Sheridan's arm strength will improve with playing time.

I do too, but until Threet proves that he can actually hit those guys, I don't think any of us can say he's managed to seperate himself as "the guy". This is an entirely differen t discussion if he manages to hit ANY of those routes down the sideline Saturday.

Re:question on qb changes (Eric72GoBlue)

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:49:00 GMT

If Threet could hit a reciever he should be the starter. I just dont want him running the ball unless were in the red zone, other than that, hes not quick enough. If he can hit 3-5 passes that get at least 20 yards I will feel a little bit better about him.

Re:question on qb changes (BoMoCarr)

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:36:37 GMT

scmgoblue

Anyone arguing Threet as the certain starter better have one heck of an explanation, his accuracy was AWFUL today.

I don't feel all that strongly about it, since neither has been great. But I sure left the stadium on Saturday thinking that Threet was clearly the starter. I thought his hand-offs were better than Sheridan's, and his fake hand-offs were much better, which is one reason he ran relatively effectively. It looked to me like the defense didn't take passing coverage very seriously with Sheridan in the game. Whether or not Threet can go deep with any accuracy, he's at least a threat to try those passes. That helps to spread the field a little more than Sheridan can. I have more confidence that Threet's accuracy will improve with playing time than I have confidence that Sheridan's arm strength will improve with playing time.
Absolutely no claims to expertise on the subject, so I may be totally wrong. But I thought the offense was more effective with Threet because of things he was doing that don't show up in his passing stats.

Re:question on qb changes (jsj_297)

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:13:14 GMT

My answer and opinion are very simple in theory. I think RR just want's one of them to make a play, whomever it may be. If Threet isn't playing well, send Nick in to try and make a play. If Nick isn't playing well, send in Threet to try and make a play. Personally I don't care who makes the plays, as long as one of them does it.

Just my opinion though, it is subject to change.

Re:question on qb changes (goblueinohio)

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:47:58 GMT

neither Sheridian nor Threet are throwing the ball well. i think thats why the majority of the plays are short less than 5 yard throws. the offense does look a little better when Threet is in. i know thats not saying much right now but i got the feeling that he is getting more comfortable and is starting to assert himself more. now if he could just throw the ball.

Re:question on qb changes (Biff Tannen)

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:24:18 GMT

I have no earthly idea. The whole house today was screaming to get him off the field and I remember asking myself "Why... is this guy... even seeing the field right now?" Seriously, I never want to see this guy trot onto the field again. For any situation. Stick with Threet, RR.

Re:question on qb changes (msp2kids)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:31:56 GMT

Threet missed way to may sideline pases!! His passes were at least 5 yrds ahead of his recievers!!! That needs to be corrected if he wants to be the full time starter.

Re:question on qb changes (xDaGhOsTx)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:05:27 GMT

Harbaugh04

xDaGhOsTx

Harbaugh04

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Threet has potential to be a good QB but it looks to me like he needs to work on his footwork a lil' bit it looks like he still throwing high school balls and just lobbing the ball up.I'd like to see him step into his passes and put a little more heat into them.

Sheridan is horrible IMO when he gets rushed he panic's and throws wild passes.He will cost us some games if he continues to throw wild balls when under pressure.

I think they throw like you do in MADDEN lol!!!!!!!!

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Re:question on qb changes (Harbaugh04)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:00:32 GMT

xDaGhOsTx

Harbaugh04

xDaGhOsTx

Threet has potential to be a good QB but it looks to me like he needs to work on his footwork a lil' bit it looks like he still throwing high school balls and just lobbing the ball up.I'd like to see him step into his passes and put a little more heat into them.

Sheridan is horrible IMO when he gets rushed he panic's and throws wild passes.He will cost us some games if he continues to throw wild balls when under pressure.

I think they throw like you do in MADDEN lol!!!!!!!!

welcome to the site BluePrint

Hmmm somebody knows me from maddenwars?

Yes!! Who is the biggest Michigan fan on MW lol
For information about Michigan Football you will find it here first! Its the best site around, plus you get some great in site from some great fans that know thier stuff..
Some people here are alittle up tight on what you say and how you say it lol .. Like me posting this to you, someone will bitch lol

Re:question on qb changes (xDaGhOsTx)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:50:48 GMT

Harbaugh04

xDaGhOsTx

Threet has potential to be a good QB but it looks to me like he needs to work on his footwork a lil' bit it looks like he still throwing high school balls and just lobbing the ball up.I'd like to see him step into his passes and put a little more heat into them.

Sheridan is horrible IMO when he gets rushed he panic's and throws wild passes.He will cost us some games if he continues to throw wild balls when under pressure.

I think they throw like you do in MADDEN lol!!!!!!!!

welcome to the site BluePrint

Hmmm somebody knows me from maddenwars?

Re:question on qb changes (Harbaugh04)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:40:06 GMT

xDaGhOsTx

Threet has potential to be a good QB but it looks to me like he needs to work on his footwork a lil' bit it looks like he still throwing high school balls and just lobbing the ball up.I'd like to see him step into his passes and put a little more heat into them.

Sheridan is horrible IMO when he gets rushed he panic's and throws wild passes.He will cost us some games if he continues to throw wild balls when under pressure.

I think they throw like you do in MADDEN lol!!!!!!!!

welcome to the site BluePrint

Re:question on qb changes (xDaGhOsTx)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:57:38 GMT

Threet has potential to be a good QB but it looks to me like he needs to work on his footwork a lil' bit it looks like he still throwing high school balls and just lobbing the ball up.I'd like to see him step into his passes and put a little more heat into them.

Sheridan is horrible IMO when he gets rushed he panic's and throws wild passes.He will cost us some games if he continues to throw wild balls when under pressure.

Re:question on qb changes (Mwolves25)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:45:16 GMT

I think I speak for a lot of people in the belief that if Threet is able to harness some of the potential, he will definately be a better option. He does seem to have a greater grasp of the run game, but I would like to see Threet have the opportunity to throw something other than a screen and a go route.

Re:question on qb changes (Millbury_Mullet)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:06:48 GMT

Maybe coach is just trying to see each QB in game situations so that he can settle on one to use in conference play. Let's be honest. This team was not going to compete for a national championship. Why not play for the Big 10 title? Best way to evaluate talent is in a game situation.

Just a thought.

Re:question on qb changes (Harbaugh04)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:54:45 GMT

After last weeks game I would say Threet all the way, but after today?? I see why RR is having a hard time.. One thing I noticed about Threet is he seems to make better play fakes hes not so quick about it like Sheridan. It seems like on passing plays they both need to just relax

EDIT: Oh I dont know why he didnt wait to switch intill half .. I was think a trick play was going to happen lol

Re:question on qb changes (victors2000)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:39:25 GMT

For the past two games Sheridan has the higher qb rating, higher pass completions, and more yards passing. I believe he has more yards rushing as well so, surprisingly, Sheridan appears to be the more productive qb of the two.

Re:question on qb changes (Chris_TX)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:34:43 GMT

Threet's accuracy was anything but accurate today. While he ran the ball well, he missed many open receivers. I haven't watched the game but once yet, but I don't believe either qb completed a pass beyond five yards. Sheridan looked unimpressive, but he wasn't given an opportunity to throw the ball. I disagree that there was any offensive rhythym when Sheridan came in, but I can't begin to explain the reasoning for the change. In the end, I feel one quarterback played poorly and one wasn't given the opportunity to make any plays.

Surely after today we can stop saying that is clearly Threet's job to lose.

Re:question on qb changes (zjgm02)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:32:28 GMT

westchamp

Given that, and you know I never disagree with you, in today's game, I cannot fathom why our coach changed qbs when he did - it was almost random - or at least it seemed to me - from Threet to Sheridan with a few minutes left in the first half?

Threet was about 4/8 for 8 yards in the previous three drives, including a couple completions for negative yards.
It's clear neither guy has convinced the coaching staff that he is the clear starter. I think Threet was on his way, but those were some horribly thrown balls that easily could have gone for 6 if they were on the money.

Re:question on qb changes (victors2000)

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:01:44 GMT

I was thinking with a few minutes left in the game Coach Rod was letting Sheridan redeem himself of last week. If sheridan was significantly different then Threet I could see using both, but now that Threet has a running game, perhaps we should give him most of the reps. He's got to complete the passes he missed today against ND next week if we are to win that game. I'd imagine their db's a slightly better than Miami's at least.
Honestly, and I know he's new, but I haven't seen the 4 star aspect of him yet.